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<nekobot> [haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/0aade8f6b4f8...342850e0b4f7
<nekobot> • kallisti5 (342850e0): buildmaster/frontend: Bump version, refresh build
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<Begasus[m]> g'morning peeps
<Aedil> Haiku!
<Begasus[m]> OK, Lazarus "install" down to 830MiB
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<nekobot> [website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/f93fdc28776e...f205c499926b
<nekobot> • mmuman (f205c499): Add JDLL 2025 conference
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<Begasus[m]> k, trying fedora way ...
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<janking> Good morning to you all :)
<Begasus[m]> g'morning janking
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<janking> :)
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<Begasus[m]> bugger, back to 1GB :P
<Begasus[m]> 775MB, that's as low as it gets I think ;)
<Begasus[m]> let's see how this goes ... package create lazarus (first time I'm using it like that I think) :)
<Begasus[m]> 151'sh MB
<Begasus[m]> package create lazarus-3.4-1-x86_64.hpkg, and the package is over 400MB?
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<Begasus[m]> err ...
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<Begasus[m]> guess it took previous package too :)
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<Begasus[m]> bugger, when running this in a recipe it finds the source but not the units :/
<Halian> :(
<Begasus[m]> looks like I somehow need to export this path ... -Fu/boot/system/lib/fpc/3.2.2/units/x86_64-haiku
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<nekobot> [haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 2 commits to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/342850e0b4f7...b9724ce8d85f
<nekobot> • kallisti5 (a1217ea2): buildmaster: Reconnect on exception…
<nekobot> • kallisti5 (b9724ce8): buildmaster/builderctl: Update paramiko to align to current buildmaster code
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<nekobot> • humdingerb (b0fc16c6): yt-dlp: update to 2025.05.22
<nekobot> [haikuports] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/fe14eb711f1a...b0fc16c6b471
<Begasus> still nogo :(
<nekobot> [haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/b9724ce8d85f...b2c6620e9ec1
<nekobot> • kallisti5 (b2c6620e): buildmaster: Add region_name setting to storageconfig
<kallisti5[m]> Begasus: yup. until mmlr reboots them / fixes the issue nothing is going to build
<kallisti5[m]> if we can't get a response we'll have to standup new ones
<Begasus[m]> not that I have something in the pipeline, but got some backups from old packages which have been replaced by local ones, and those should be replaced by the system ones
<kallisti5[m]> He's generally pretty good about responding though, so we'll see
<Begasus[m]> crossing fingers :)
<kallisti5[m]> me too. I don't want to spend Inc cash on more vm's :-)
<Begasus[m]> understood :)
<Begasus[m]> those buildmasters haven't been moved, or do they stay at mmlr hardware?
<kallisti5[m]> they've been there a while. He set them up and maintains them
<kallisti5[m]> we do have ssh access to them when they're running via buildmaster
<kallisti5[m]> but, when they're down we don't have any access remotely
<kallisti5[m]> ok. I think I have enough fixes in for buildmaster s3 to make it work. It's building openssl3 now for riscv64
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<kallisti5[m]> eventually we'll move to this new buildmaster which supports s3 buckets for artifacts... but we just have to sort out all of the bugs
<Begasus[m]> +1
<Begasus[m]> biab
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<Begasus[m]> re
<Begasus[m]> creating lazarus package on the other laptop (that holds default Qt6 version) :)
<Begasus[m]> bugger, just hit me, the other laptop is running nightly :P
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<Begasus[m]> and now codeberg doesn't let me upload file over 100MB :P
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<Habbie> what's the state of wayland on haiku? is pkgman install wayland_server the thing?
<Begasus[m]> define status? ;)
<Begasus[m]> x512: is your man there
<Habbie> well, i remember reading "wayland just works on haiku"
<Habbie> but WAYLAND_DISPLAY is not set, and then i found, indeed, x512[m]'s wayland_server
<Begasus[m]> there is the wayland library/client/server
<Begasus[m]> but no WM for wayland afaik
<Habbie> it looks like we don't need a WM though?
<Begasus[m]> eg, can't use wayland for KDE sources either
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<Habbie> oh why not?
<Begasus[m]> nah, so far haven't run into major issues with KDE software not running through x11/wayland
<Begasus[m]> libplasma needs qt6wayland needs ...
<x512[m]> Habbie: What do you want to do with Wayland on Haiku?
<Habbie> x512[m], that's not a question that occurred to me yet!
<Habbie> but, i do have some software here (voorkant.org) that currently uses SDL to render in an X11 window
<Habbie> and yesterday i realised that i could skip SDL
<Habbie> and use X11 and/or Wayland
<Habbie> (the software uses LVGL and has different rendering backends for different systems - SDL being the one I use on desktop OSes so far)
<Habbie> so i was wondering if that (Wayland) would work on Haiku
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<nephele_jabberfr> Habbie: better skip wayland or X11 and keep sdl
<Habbie> nephele_jabberfr, why/
<Habbie> ?
<nephele_jabberfr> it will give you a much better compatibility
<Habbie> it also involves a bunch of deps and a larger binary, and i don't have to -drop- SDL
<nephele_jabberfr> SDL has a native backend
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<Begasus[m]> k, time to head out, cu peeps!
<Habbie> nephele_jabberfr, for Haiku you mean?
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<Habbie> ok, hello-wayland works
<Habbie> no window decoration somehow
<nephele_jabberfr> Yes
<x512[m]> Habbie: Currently only KDE decoration protocol is supported.
<Habbie> x512[m], ah
<Habbie> your hello-wayland screenshot on https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/my-progress-in-wayland-compatibility-layer/12373 has decoration
<Habbie> is why i was surprised
<x512[m]> Because nothing else is supported in GTK.
<Habbie> but all good, i'm just toying
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<x512[m]> OpenGL/Vulkan works with Wayland on Haiku, but not released yet. It need to sort out and update Mesa driver.
<x512[m]> Note that Haiku itself is not based on Wayland. It is compatibility layer and a wrapper over native Haiku API.
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<Habbie> x512[m], oh yes, i know haiku itself is not wayland base
<Habbie> d
<Habbie> how does the wayland_server .so make it into a process?
<x512[m]> It use patched libwayland-client.so that load Wayland server into client process with dlopen instead of regular socket stuff.
<Habbie> ah the patch is in -client, got it
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<Habbie> i do see -client in lddtree on my hello-wayland :)
<x512[m]> But it is also possible to enable regular socket protocol and run server in separate process. It allow to run Waypipe for example.
<Habbie> enable - by setting WAYLAND_DISPLAY?
<x512[m]> It is not yet added to HaikuPorts version yet.
<Habbie> ah ok
<Habbie> i have no goals here, just curious
<x512[m]> So it curretly need separate build.
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<nekobot> [haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/b2c6620e9ec1...fafa9a0e85d7
<nekobot> • kallisti5 (fafa9a0e): buildmaster: refactor builderssh to new design
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<nekobot> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b0fc16c6b471...e25626a256be
<nekobot> • korli (e25626a2): groff: removed unneeded dependencies…
<nekobot> • korli (0470e65b): DependencyResolver: removed unused class member
<nekobot> [haikuporter] korli pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/compare/fafa9a0e85d7...0470e65b9551
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