<nekobot>
• Begasus (aae623c6): step, more cleanup (#12343)
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<nephele>
Begasus[m]: what's the point of kf5 neochat?
<Begasus[m]>
having a working one for you or others nephele ?
<Begasus[m]>
also, the kf6 version crashes on the nightly image here (kf6 works on another laptop nightly though)
<Begasus[m]>
so nothing released yet, just wondering if it fixes some issues you are having
<Anarchos>
i wonder what to do with ghostscript, the bealpha2/4 devices being available only on ghostscript 8....but the recent one in haikuports being 10.3.1
<Anarchos>
Begasus[m] if you wonder, this is for BeTex.
<Begasus[m]>
thought so Anarchos :)
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<Begasus[m]>
is there a way to upgrade the bealpha2/4 to use ghostscript from the depot?
<Anarchos>
Begasus[m] teh devices are new files for BeOS, in the ghostscript_gpl patchset for version 8.
<Anarchos>
Begasus[m] PulkoMandy did them, many years (decade ?) ago...
<Anarchos>
*to be precise, he commited the files, but i think the author is michael pfeiffer*
<Begasus[m]>
that's an old name from way back :)
<Begasus[m]>
I remember something about ghostscript8, should be some information at haikuports for it I guess
<nekobot>
• korli (7fd32a51): llvm20: try to fix x86 build
<Anarchos>
Begasus[m] i didn't have time to look at it yesterday night. Anyway i just need to replace the command «gs -sDEVICE=bealpha4 $.ps» to be able to render the .ps file. Maybe i could add a dependcy on BGhostView ?
<PulkoMandy>
Anarchos: These files are the reson why I restored ghostscript 8, when I was working on fixing bghostview. But in the end, new ghostscript versions have better apis and I updated bghostview to use them.
<PulkoMandy>
You can create a bbitmap and tell bghostscript to render into it on its own, so, it's not really needed to keep all this old code unless there are other apps using it
<PulkoMandy>
Maybe I should not have ressurected it .)
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<Anarchos>
PulkoMandy i don't understand all, i juste need a command line to render a ghostscript file :)
<Anarchos>
PulkoMandy by "bghostscript", you mean bghostview or ghostscript ?
<PulkoMandy>
Bghostview
<PulkoMandy>
what do you want to render to? You can use ghostscript command line tool to render to png and other image formats. But if you want to render in a window, yes, you need something to do that. Bghostview can do it with a nice window to move between pages
<PulkoMandy>
The default ghostscript viewer can only move formard to the next page and never back, it's not so useful as an interactive viewer anyways
<Anarchos>
PulkoMandy i only remember that this "gs $file.ps" used to work on old version of BeTeX.IF BGhostview is usable like that in command line, i can add a dependency on BGhostview in BeTeX.
<PulkoMandy>
You can depend on ghostscript8 if you really want to use gs, but yes, I think BGhostView will work better for that
<Anarchos>
PulkoMandy i am not sticked to gs, as BeTeX is broken for years...
<nekobot>
• jmairboeck (edb280bb): libgcrypt: fix gcc2 build of version 1.11, remove old version
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<erysdren>
odd one
<Habbie>
meh, clangd worked with my CudaText yesterday but does nothing today
<Habbie>
ok genio works. takes a bit to start up, but it works, with clangd
<Habbie>
what happens if i push a branch with 4 commits to gerrit, 2 of which have no change-ids?
<Habbie>
alternative form of the question: i know gerrit reviews per commit, which is fine, but the different things i want to push to gerrit are on one branch together. there are also commits that should not become pending changes. any hints?
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<OscarL>
Habbie: if you push commits without "Commit-Id", they get one assigned by gerrit.
<Habbie>
yeah, i feared that
<Habbie>
oh also hi OscarL
<Habbie>
i'm using genio and clangd
<Habbie>
it struggles a bit but it works
<OscarL>
hello there. Good that it works for you!
<Habbie>
yeah. cudatext just stopped launching clangd for me
<Habbie>
and genio is a bit.. spartan, but it'll do
<Habbie>
i shall soon do my first gerrit push from an actual haiku machine
<OscarL>
was reading the logs, while updating the Python 3.14.0 recipe for beta1 :-)
<Habbie>
ah you read logs
<Habbie>
i was wondering, because your join clearly is not matrix
<Habbie>
and the beta came out then, o
<Habbie>
*ok
<OscarL>
I *almost* pushed my changes before they even updated their website to show that new version :-D
<Habbie>
haha
<Habbie>
ok, guess i'll have to restructure to two branches, the top one of which contains stuff for gerrit
<Habbie>
this is doable
<Habbie>
the good news is that gerrit doesn't care if i rebase that branch and the git commit ids change
<OscarL>
(I had to run the test-suite one more time to test a few things, thus my small delay :-D)
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<OscarL>
FreeBSD's list of usb-quirks is pretty large. How did I ended up reading that source file? No clue.
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<Habbie>
OscarL, that reminds me - i think 'my' touchpad driver came from freebsd, i should check for updates over there :)
<Habbie>
good: running jam -a -c once to fill compile_commands.json. not good: forgetting the -a when you changed 3 lines
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<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 09c3b0df777a - Revert "Tracker: Don't create the TitleView and CountView for the desktop."
<Habbie>
(forgetting to remove it, that is)
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<OscarL>
Habbie: was about to mention that I saw a "chromebook_platform.c" file, containing i2c related code in FreeBSD's repo. No idea if it might be of any use for you, but...
<Habbie>
i thought earlier today "i'm going to end up with a git clone freebsd-src on my haiku" already :D
<OscarL>
:-)
<Habbie>
not sure what this file would add for me
<Habbie>
but that might change
<Habbie>
today haiku does know i have these i2c devices
<Habbie>
it just fails to talk to them
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<Habbie>
ah, that file is for two specific devices it appears
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* nephele
waves
<Habbie>
guten Abend
<nephele>
I'm going to try and boot a 32bit haiku on my tablet next
<nephele>
too bad that there is no 32bit efi on the 64bit image yet
<nephele>
atleast this time i thought of doing step
<nephele>
#1
<nephele>
to unzip the file before i copy it
<Habbie>
hehe
<Habbie>
i wasn't even fully aware 32 bit efi existed
<Habbie>
i do have recent experience getting haiku to boot on a weird device (but i chose the extra hard non-efi path)
<Habbie>
(which i guess you are also choosing now)
<nephele>
The device is a Trekstor Surftab twin 10.1
<Habbie>
so do ping me if you have trouble, i just might have seen it before
<nephele>
soon i might get a keyboard/trackpad for it, so it'd actually be useable
<Habbie>
atom, 2/32 gb, not bad
<Habbie>
remind me, you have linux on it already?
<nephele>
it has a useable efi, even "boot this file" :)
<nephele>
Yes, I have debian installed
<Habbie>
alright
<nephele>
also windows 10
<Habbie>
hehe
<Habbie>
on the chromebook, people go 'i have linux, that was easy. windows was hard'
<nephele>
funnily enough the only windows I have, it lets me know the touchscreen works and wifi etc
<nephele>
on linux that is still giving me trouble
<Habbie>
ah
<nephele>
especially touchscreen calibration
<Habbie>
i found out -by accident-, looking at dmesg and the acpi tree in linux, for haiku reasons, that i have a touchscreen
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<nephele>
I got as far as figuring out that "weston-calibrator" is the really correct tool to calibrate to get a transformation matrix, but i don't know how to get this info to libinput once i have the matrix *shrug*
<nephele>
too bad this has a 32bit efi
<nephele>
otherwise booting a 64 bit haiku would be much easier
<Habbie>
yeah
<Habbie>
so what's your plan?
<nephele>
boot the 32bit version first
<Habbie>
in CSM?
<nephele>
with efi
<Habbie>
oh wait. 32 bit haiku has 32 bit efi. 64 bit haiku has 64 bit efi. 64 bit haiku does not have 32 bit efi?
<nephele>
yes
<Habbie>
ok
<Habbie>
64 bit haiku has 32 bit boot loader
<Habbie>
so this seems solvable with work
<nephele>
Yes, it is
<Habbie>
(talking about non-efi there)
<Habbie>
alright
<Habbie>
my system goes through the whole 16->32->64 cycle and i've seen the inside of most of it this week :)
<nephele>
Hmm, maybe you can teach me a bit then :D
<nephele>
atleast now, the system does not boot. The firmware thinks this stick is bootable, but no Haiku Icons
<Habbie>
i might be able to help
<Habbie>
but i do need to leave in a few minutes today
<Habbie>
i've been at 0, 3 and then 7 haiku icons recently
<nephele>
Well they don't appear at all, not even grayed out
<Habbie>
oh i've never seen grayed out
<Habbie>
but that suggests the boot loader is unhappy, before the icons
<nephele>
wdym?
<Habbie>
i have never seen grayed out icons
<Habbie>
oh wait
<Habbie>
i saw them last year
<nephele>
They are normally grayed out
<nephele>
untill their boot stage is reached
<Habbie>
my current haiku image does not show them at all until their stage is reached
<Habbie>
i don't know why that is
<nephele>
oh okay
<Habbie>
but yes, i remember now
<nephele>
the loader draws the gray versions
<Habbie>
ahh
<Habbie>
my loader is in debug mode for some reasons - maybe because nightly?
<nephele>
the nightly vs beta should no longer make a difference. used to be they draw in seperate places
<Habbie>
anyway, can you interact with the loader?
<Habbie>
ok
<nephele>
but now they draw in the same place
<Habbie>
oh, my image also has some patches from waddlesplash for debugging my boot issues
<nephele>
just that the beta loader draws the Haiku logo aswell
<nephele>
hmm, how would I interact?
<Habbie>
well, once it stopped causing reboots, mine showed a menu. in 'normal' setups i think you need to hold shift or something to get it?
<Habbie>
does your attempt hang, or quickly reboot?
<nephele>
hang
<Habbie>
ok
<Habbie>
mine rebooted, so i inserted while(1); in various spots in the boot loader to figure out where the reboot was
<Habbie>
if you can find a reliable way to reboot, or do any other kind of communication, you can do the same trick
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<nephele>
hmm, dont see a loader no
<nephele>
not when mashing space
<nephele>
it stays black
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<Habbie>
you can also try the TRACE_ #defines in various source files
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<Habbie>
but it starts with figuring out which source files actually apply here in what order