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<janking> Good morning to U all :)
<erysdren> morning janking
<janking> :)
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* coolcoder613_ waves
<janking> :)
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<Begasus[m]> g'morning peeps
<rock4u> morning Begasus[m]
<erysdren> morning Begasus
<Begasus[m]> hi there erysdren
<janking> :)
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/862e8a6a2149...c3878649a404
<nekobot> • Begasus (c3878649): kgeography, add new geographical traner (KDE) (#12373)
<Begasus[m]> there, been sitting long enough in my local collection :)
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<janking> hello
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c3878649a404...cee9aa741e28
<nekobot> • Begasus (cee9aa74): kfourinline, bump to 25.04.0 (#12374)
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<nekobot> • Begasus (e833738e): kdiamond, bump to 25.04.0 (#12375)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/cee9aa741e28...e833738e3db0
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e833738e3db0...3bb48df2093b
<nekobot> • Begasus (3bb48df2): kdialog_kf6, bump to 25.04.0 (#12376)
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3bb48df2093b...de65bfc121ee
<nekobot> • Begasus (de65bfc1): kdegraphics_thumbnailers, bump to 25.04.0 (#12377)
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/de65bfc121ee...0ee66b499352
<nekobot> • Begasus (0ee66b49): kdeedu_data, bump to 25.04.0 (#12378)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0ee66b499352...b36fd17f6b58
<nekobot> • Begasus (b36fd17f): kcharselect, bump to 25.04.0 (#12379)
<Begasus[m]> bugger, touchpad working again ...
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b36fd17f6b58...f1c830d762eb
<nekobot> • Begasus (f1c830d7): kcalc, bump to 25.04.0 (#12380)
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f1c830d762eb...983d3e577133
<nekobot> • Begasus (983d3e57): kcachegrind, bump to 25.04.0 (#12381)
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<janking> :)
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<nephele> I have a wacom device, it is detected by the system, according to the syslog. It does not appear in the input device list. Trying to use "cat /dev/input/wacom/usb/0" returns B_ERROR, is that normal? shouldn
<nephele> 't I be able to open the device like this and read from it?
<nephele> or does this only work with ioctls?
<nephele> "[ 1285] open(0xffffffff, "0", 0, 0x0) = 0xffffffff General system error (35 us)"
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<korli> nephele: if the driver entry is already opened, the driver could return an error on open()
<Begasus[m]> Hello there korli :)
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<nephele> korli: okay, makes sense. Is there no posix error for that?
<nephele> Regardless, i recompiled the wacom addon for logging, and it seems it sees the device, and opens it, it just doesn
<nephele> 't like it
<nephele> > pointing device not added (/dev/input/wacom/usb/0)
<nephele> > vendor: 056a, product: 0302
<korli> hello Begasus
<korli> nephele: entry published and open() returns a generic error, this isn't good indeed
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<nephele> added the device to the driver, but reading seems to fail... not sure which protocol this device uses :)
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<nephele> Okay, I'm still getting read faults with another protocol specified... Is there some "good" way to inspect the device to figure out which protocol is needed?
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<korli> nephele: tried usbmon on linux?
<nephele> no, i've not tried using this on linux yet
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<janking> :)
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<pol> hi, anybody using WebPositive for dev.haiku-os.org?
<pol> It seems it cannot Filter by Component at ../query :)
<Begasus[m]> I sometimes use it with WebPositive
<Forza> Hi :) Is there a kernel log or similar system log in Haiku? How do I access it?
<pol> /boot/system/var/log/syslog
<pol> The thing that is causing my concern as to wheter it fully work is when I try to select Component, Applications and then next drop-down menu appears in Chrome :|
<Begasus[m]> pol: seems to work here? https://dev.haiku-os.org/query?component=%5E-+General&owner=!begasus&status=assigned&status=in-progress&status=new&status=reopened&order=priority&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&col=component
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58863] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4dd25011f0e1+%5E9b9fc1597d8f
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 4dd25011f0e1 - nfs4: Avoid deleting nodes when unlinking
<Forza> pol: thanks. found it.
<Begasus[m]> Forza: you can run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" in Terminal to have live output from syslog
<pol> In general, yes I think it is working correctly as a system (bugtracker) but Web+ have trouble fully rendering.. Just try VIEW TICKET from the front page and try to select Component there and refine it to Tracker/WebPositive or something else.
<Forza> I was surprised I could mount a usb disk with btrfs over spice to a haiku guest and it would mound there :D
<Begasus[m]> 251 tickets shown pol : https://dev.haiku-os.org/query?component=%5EApplications%2FTracker&owner=!begasus&status=assigned&status=in-progress&status=new&status=reopened&order=priority&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=component&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone
<Begasus[m]> hooray for Haiku Forza :)
<Forza> yes :) Indeed.
<Forza> It works pretty well now I think.
<Forza> And we have several browsers that work too.
<pol> Could this be a problem with my specific setup, for examaple network adapter..
<Begasus[m]> pol: I set owner "is not" there (as I don't have an open ticket it seems)
<pol> It's just not adding another drop-down menu for me after I select Applications hehe but I can access it from any other ticket by clicking the "Component" link.
<pol> what do you mean by "over spice" here?
<Begasus[m]> over spice?
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<pol> I'm reffering to what Forza said about mounting
<Begasus[m]> ah, my bad :)
<pol> Anyway, I'm looking for that ticket for WebPositive where somebody couldn't click the back button.
<Forza> pol: spice is like vnc, but allows usb pass through and sound
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<pol> I found the VNC server for Haiku is using too much CPU and being therfore unusable for any practical purposes.
<pol> Tried adjusting the compression level and eliminating network lag..
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<OscarL> how nice of past /me to leave proper instructions in a commit message, so I now can just copy/paste that when updating the Pe recipe :-)
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<HaikuUser> Are there any sound schemes for Haiku? If there are, where can I find them?
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<Anarchos> hello Begasus[m]
<Begasus[m]> hi Anarchos OscarL :)
<OscarL> Hey there Begasus[m], Anarchos, and the rest of the usual suspects!
<Anarchos> OscarL :)
<Begasus[m]> already did dolphin with kde-builder, now checking neochat with it :)
<pol> Sound for system actions does not work except for system startup.
<OscarL> beep works.
<scanty> good morning, good afternoon, good evening and good night :-)
<OscarL> hey there scanty :-)
<scanty> oh hi OscarL
<scanty> what's new and exciting?
<OscarL> Pe about to get a 2.5.0 realease on HaikuPorts :-)
<scanty> nice!
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<Begasus[m]> hi there scanty
<scanty> hi Begasus[m]... what are you up to today?
<scanty> OscarL: does the syntax highlighter in Pe now recongnise 64-bit registers?
<scanty> (in assembly mode, obviously_
<Begasus[m]> woot! OscarL was about to push the button! :P
<OscarL> I don't think so, scanty. Not sure if anyone has really touched that one since I wrote it :-D
<Begasus[m]> still updating some of those gear packages in haikuports scanty
<OscarL> Begasus[m]: pheew! :-)
<scanty> OK, I will work on it this week
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<Begasus[m]> OscarL: give a yell when ready :)
<scanty> Begasus[m]: not trying to be rude, but when you are comparing things, you want to use "than", and not "then"
<OscarL> Ahhhh!!!!
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<OscarL> can yell "Jeronimo!!!" too, if you prefer, Begasus[m].
<scanty> lols OscarL
<Begasus[m]> ouch scanty , didn't know there :)
<scanty> Begasus[m]: no worries :-)
<Begasus[m]> no turning back OscarL :P
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/983d3e577133...01e04456ec15
<nekobot> • OscarL (01e04456): pe: update to version 2.5.0. (#12383)…
<scanty> OscarL: what is new in Pe?
<Begasus[m]> thanks for correcting scanty , won't be the last I guess :)
<scanty> Begasus[m]: sure thing. Glad you're not annoyed with me ^_^
<OscarL> mostly minor fixes here and here, scanty. most "user visible" changes are some updates to language extensions/syntax coloring, I'd say, and as "new feature" being able to call "Pe --diff file1.cpp file2.cpp" (or "lpe --diff file1.cpp file2.cpp).
<scanty> ah nice
<pol> What actions trigger Beep Sound?
<Begasus[m]> nah, happy to learn scanty , it's obvious to you, not always to me :) (like to vs too - got that now though) :)
<OscarL> I feel like Pe's diff mode was underutilized, barely known... but it is quite handy.
<scanty> Begasus[m]: :-)
<scanty> english can be tricky at times.
<OscarL> pol: calling system_beep() for example :-P
<OscarL> pol: seems to be used at least by mail notifications and powerstatus: https://grok.nikisoft.one/opengrok/search?project=haiku&full=system_beep&defs=&refs=&path=&hist=&type=&xrd=&nn=1
<OscarL> pol: there's also: /bin/beep
<OscarL> I had fun making that work with a PC speaker a few weeks ago.
<OscarL> (I should try to fix one last bug on that driver, and submit it for review, even if just to get a laugh).
<pol> Working on laptop at the moment so no internal speaker I think, but the beep app works when I set the sound in Sounds.
<OscarL> scanty: if curious, here's the "changelog" for Pe, as generated by github... https://github.com/HaikuArchives/Pe/releases/tag/v2.5.0 (not sure what it took as "previous" version, and funny that most of us appear as "new contributors, despite having commits in there from 2003/2004 :-D)
<scanty> thanks, OscarL
<pol> Pe looks weird on bigger resolutions - scroll bars and icons are not scaling, so I prefer StyledEdit.
<OscarL> pol: All 4 netbooks I have at hand have a tiny piezo buzzer, but Haiku doesn't currently has a pc speaker driver (that was what I was toying with a few weeks ago).
<OscarL> pol: from the new Pe "release notes": "Fix HDPI issues, using be_control_look->GetScrollBarWidth()"
<OscarL> you should be able to update to 2.5.0 now.
<OscarL> doubt icons will scale yet, though.
<OscarL> scanty: calling English "tricky at times" is quite the understatement :-P (https://ncf.idallen.com/english.html)
<Begasus[m]> big list OscarL , hope it's not broken now :P
<OscarL> parts of what's on that list of Pe changes we had already "shipped" in previous .recipe updates.
<OscarL> there was just never a "formal" release over github (with the only previous tag being from 2002 :-D)
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<janking> how to do with this file? OpenVPN-Config.ovpn
<janking> some one :)
<scanty> i have no idea, sorry ^_^
<OscarL> not sure about that file, janking, but general info on openvpn in Haiku: https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/connecting-to-a-vpn-via-openvpn/16287
<janking> ok
<OscarL> "openvpn --config Your-downloaded-ovpn-file" sounds relevant
<janking> thanks for the link
<OscarL> np.
<scanty> OscarL: that was a good read
<OscarL> :-)
<OscarL> I love that poem.
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<pol> That would need links to wiktionary to fully understand it.
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<pol> I found a GUI tool to edit attribures, it's called resourcer - usefull for editing those WebPositive bookmarks.
<scanty> be careful with that one, it's still quite a bit buggy.
<pol> Replacing default apps with installs from HaikuDepot? I wonder what your favorite apps are for audio/video/picture?
<scanty> pol: i think you misunderstood. Resourcer itself is buggy.
<pol> And I should add pdf there
<pol> It's unrelated thought to the previous statement.
<scanty> ah, okay
<scanty> sorry!~
<pol> Sometimes the application itself is working great and offering additional functionality or performance but launching with it from Tracker doesn't work.
<pol> Even when I select custom application in FileTypes it says selected application does not support opening this file type.
<OscarL> pol: for apps that work when started from Terminal, but fail when started via Tracker/Deskbar (or sometimes the other way around), please file a ticket over https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports.
<OscarL> it is, usually, not that difficult to fix.
<pol> OK, I will have to login into my github account if I have one :)
<OscarL> filetype handling support varies, particularly for software ported from other platforms.
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<pol> Yes, it's like that on Linux too. But I found out SMplayer with mplayer backend can play 1080p video when I set 4 threads decoding but MediaPlayer can't.
<pol> And for images it varies but qview works nicely with double click on file association. With browsing directory tree phototonic is the best.
<pol> For audio I like musikcube the most. With PDF I didn't find the best yet BePDF have good performance and renders mostly correctly nut lacks coontinous mode.
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<OscarL> I remember translating the BePDF documentation into Castilian (Spanish)... loooong time ago :-). Michael Pfeiffer did a nice job on that app!
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<scanty> ok, need to lay down for a while (been sick since Friday) bbl.
<OscarL> be well soon!
<scanty> thanks :-)
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<Haikunaut> hello
<Haikunaut> hello
<OscarL> hey there Haikunaut.
<OscarL> janking in disguise, I see! :-P
<Haikunaut> :)
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<janking> yes
<janking> i try Chat-O-Matic
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<rock4u> :)
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<nekobot> [haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/01e04456ec15...d9ec3da8156e
<nekobot> • threedeyes (d9ec3da8): iceweasel: bump version
<nekobot> • threedeyes (5151b732): iceweasel_bin: bump version
<nekobot> [haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d9ec3da8156e...5151b732d2d1