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<Begasus[m]> g'morning peeps
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e1a18f0e702f...bd67f54127b0
<nekobot> • OscarL (bd67f541): nodejs16: drop old recipe. (#12431)…
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<OscarL> Aloha Begasus[m]!
<Begasus[m]> Hola OscarL ! :)
<Begasus[m]> libarchive good to go?
<Begasus[m]> ps, I guess using clangd on any IDE is hard (qt-creator has some lag when running it also) :)
<OscarL> I built libarchive on both 32 and 64 bits, and inspected the the libarchive.pc contained on both .hpkg. Looks good to me, at least :-)
<Begasus[m]> OK, let's merge (now that 64bit buildmaster is still alive) :)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/bd67f54127b0...36ee9e6f96eb
<nekobot> • OscarL (36ee9e6f): libarchive: fix build on 32 bits. (#12423)
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<OscarL> Have been fiddling with GPT partitions on the "new" netbook for a while now. Originally came with both Win10 and a custom Linux distro called Huayra. Both OK, but the partition layout was pretty messy (ESP, Huayra, couple clonezilla partitions, MSFTRes, Win10, Win10 Recovery).
<OscarL> (made it even messier when I resized the linux and win partitions aiming to have a larger "Data" one.... and by also installing Haiku in some "random" corner)
<Begasus[m]> do you still need those?
<OscarL> Now trying to finally sort it out for good... but Win10 is really picky about its partitions layout, and stops booting if you even sneeze too loud.
<OscarL> Begasus[m]: still need the original Win10 for now, and having a linux to compare things related to Python is always a plus.
<Begasus[m]> yeah, been lucky here with Win11
<Begasus[m]> still need it for EiD here, doesn't work on Haiku
<OscarL> Finally managed to move a 16 MB "msftres" partition to a "decent" place in the layout, with Win still booting. Had to learn a few tricks on using gfdisk to change partition numbers on GPT.
<OscarL> turns out Win doesn't cares if you move that partition, as long as it has the same number that it had when Win was installed :-/
<Begasus[m]> jikes, don't like fiddling with those
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<OscarL> me neither, but... I can't keep using Haiku on a 4 GB partition there :-D. Need to move some more partitions around, to "definitive" positions and sizes.
<OscarL> and given than this Phenom II X4 is giving me so much headaches... need to have that netbook ready in case I can't boot this one any longer.
<Begasus[m]> it's just the motherboard on that?
<OscarL> motherboard *and* PSU most likely.
<OscarL> The fact that I want to have the netbook boot (via rEFInd): Win10, VoidLinux, Haiku 64 bits, Haiku 32 bits and also LibreELEC (to use as a "portable movie player") complicates the setup a bit :-D
<Begasus[m]> if only you lived somewhere more accessible ... :)
<OscarL> yeah, I'm a bit off of the main roads :-)
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<Begasus[m]> g'morning jmairboeck
* OscarL waves too.
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<janking> Good morning to you all :)
<OscarL> hey there rock-n-roller! :-)
<Begasus[m]> Hi there janking :)
<janking> :)
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] autocommitter pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58876] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=db7149574dc4+%5Ea73ec8640767
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] db7149574dc4 - Update translations from Pootle
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<nephele_jabberfr> hello
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<OscarL> good morning nephele_jabberfr.
<phschafft> morning.
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<OscarL> No idea why, but the fat32 driver sometimes have problems reading the label of the ESP partition: https://0x0.st/8xH9.png but after a reboot, it correctly shows "esp" now.
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<Begasus[m]> OscarL: ... typo's? :P
<Begasus[m]> Hi there nephele_jabberfr and phschafft
<phschafft> all good?
<OscarL> Begasus[m]: I was thinking of some non-initialized variable somewhere but... maybe my typos are indeed that contagious :-P
<Begasus[m]> not all, but important parts are fine phschafft :)
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<Begasus[m]> checking lazarus build/packaging on 32bit, and looking how far I can get with qtcreator 17.0.0 beta2 :)
<OscarL> good luck with that!
<Begasus[m]> which one? :P
* OscarL gestures broadly
<Begasus[m]> lazarus build with the script already done on 32bit
<OscarL> bummer. can't resize the voidlinux ext4 partition from the older "Huayra" linux :-/ "Unsupported FEATURE_C12" (and "get a new version of e2fsck!")
<Begasus[m]> update?
<OscarL> wonder if is the same feature that prevents it from mounting in Haiku too.
<phschafft> hey I mean if the important parts are fine they can serve as a foundation to fix the rest. :)
<OscarL> Begasus[m]: I'm trying to do things as offline as possible to avoid eating too much of my remaining data :-D
<OscarL> Begasus[m]: to the point of trying to move partitions around instead of re-installing :-D
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<Begasus[m]> understood OscarL :)
* Begasus[m] needs fresh coffee
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<HaikuUser> could the PS2 run Haiku?
<Begasus[m]> done :)
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<Begasus[m]> Hi HaikuUser , PS2?
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<OscarL> yes! managed to disable a couple of features for a "modern" ext4 partition, and now I can mount it from Haiku.
<phschafft> OscarL++
<OscarL> I used: "tune2fs -O ^orphan_file /dev/sdaX" (this one just to see if I can resize it from an older linux) and "tune2fs -O ^metadata_csum_seed /dev/device" (this one I'm *almost* sure was the one preventing it from mounting on Haiku).
<OscarL> (replace "/dev/device" and /dev/sdaX as appropiate (I was half copy pasting, half writting from memory :-P)
<OscarL> phschafft: always nice to avoid having to wipe a partition and re-install :-D
<phschafft> that surely sounds like a big bonus.
<OscarL> resizing worked. nice! (will make moving the partition way faster :-P)
<Begasus[m]> wtg OscarL ! :)
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<Begasus[m]> package create ... still running on 32bit
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<OscarL> the "moved" win10 partition is unable to boot :-/ (even after changing partition numbers to match the older ones). Oh well. Was worth a try.
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<Begasus[m]> bugger :/
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<OscarL> the "minimized and moved" VoidLinux one worked at least :-D
<Begasus[m]> and Haiku?
<OscarL> had to nuke the tiny partition I had for it. Need to create the partition layout I really want before re-installing it.
<Begasus[m]> 20GB should give you some room for playing around :)
<Begasus[m]> no go on 32bit with the script
<OscarL> Still need Win to be able to also run Haiku via VBox from the real partition (as I like to do), as in bare-metal the WiFi only occasionally connects, and I have no touchpad :-)
<Begasus[m]> binary can't find the needed qt6pas library
<OscarL> surely missing an "x86" in there, right?
<Begasus[m]> just wonder how this "does" work when build with fpcupdeluxe ;)
<Begasus[m]> indeed mixed arch
<Begasus[m]> biab
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<JesusGod-Poop666> is this the main channel?
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<phschafft> ?
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<OscarL> main enough for me (the only one I join at least :-P)
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<Begasus[m]> do we need an admin to confirm that? :P
<JesusGod-Pope666> Roger
<JesusGod-Pope666> Was looking for the XMPP channel but I guess it is not there.
<OscarL> JesusGod-Pope666: XMPP: #haiku%irc.oftc.net@irc.jabberfr.org]
<OscarL> (from the channel topic)
<Begasus[m]> xmmp is bridged here (IRC) just as matrix is
<Begasus[m]> and good old BeShare :)
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<Begasus[m]> biab
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<BrunoSpr> Hello all, Time for Beta 6? Long time no release!
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<PulkoMandy> Too many bugs to fix at the moment
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<JesusGod-Pope666> Begasus[m]: ahh yea makes sense
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<JesusGod-Pope666> No work but I have one that works
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<nephele> JesusGod-Poop666: we don't have an haiku xmpp channel afaik. That uri is a biboumi bridge
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58877] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7dd8d99c5eed+%5Edb7149574dc4
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 7dd8d99c5eed - Time preferences: show help if started with unrecognized command line flags
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58878] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=22ec4777248c+%5E7dd8d99c5eed
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 22ec4777248c - Time preferences: show help harder
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<Begasus[m]> k, not getting this thing to get the new libxslt into the anyboot image :/
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<HaikuUser> Could Steam run on Haiku? (using something like Wine)
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<Shaka444> HaikuUser There is wine on Haiku and BoxedWine which is wine in a VM
<nephele_jabberfr> In theory yes, in practice no. boxedwine is too slow to be usable, and the eine port does not support 32bit libraries that steam uses
<Shaka444> I have a question- does anyone remember the copy/disk transfer speeds in R5? I'm only getting less than 1 MB/s on a SATA drive. Looking to speed that up
<Habbie> i get a very decent 300MB/s on USB3
<Habbie> (on a nightly)
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<Shaka444> Habbie I'm talking about BeOS R5
<Habbie> oh!
<Shaka444> :-)
<Habbie> right. i keep confusing that with haiku b5
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<HaikuUser> how can i run windows 10 on Haiku? AQEMU only supports Windows 7 x64
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<HaikuUser> hi
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<Habbie> HaikuUser, what happens if you choose 7 and then put in a 10 iso?
<HaikuUser> idk ill try it out
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<ParseAsBNF> Hi everybody...
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] nephele pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58879] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=742a3c335974+%5E22ec4777248c
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 742a3c335974 - Wacom: Added support for Intuos4 series
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<nethsara> hey
<nethsara> trying out haiku seems awesome
<PulkoMandy> welcome, have fun :)
<nethsara> oh thank you
<Habbie> welcome!
* phschafft is back to soldering.
<ParseAsBNF> This is my library of BeOS books I use : https://cyberhumanitude.ovh/BEOS/
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<Habbie> Porting UNIX Applications
<Habbie> we should get Begasus[m] a copy :D
<Anarchos> hello PulkoMandy
<scanty> phschafft: what are you working on? Nice to see someone else into electronics. :)
<ParseAsBNF> Habbie : I have the book "Porting UNIX Applications to BeOS".
<Habbie> ParseAsBNF, yes, i was looking at your photos
<Begasus[m]> I think I already have that habbie (still un opened) :P
<Habbie> lol
<Begasus[m]> maybe I'll write my own, porting for seniors :P
<scanty> i have some bug hunting to do, but i keep putting it off.
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<Begasus[m]> I'm out of "major" challenges atm :)
<Begasus[m]> well .. for my skills that is
<Anarchos> ParseAsBNF less relevant, as Haiku is more posix compliant than BeOS
<Habbie> pick one that teaches you new skills
<Habbie> Anarchos, i had the same thought
<Habbie> iirc in BeOS, socket handles and file handles were separate namespaces?
<Anarchos> Habbie yes
<Habbie> i remember software choking on that
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<Anarchos> Begasus[m] do you have 'bad checksum' when updating with pkgman ?
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<phschafft> I think I have now used all 28 pins of that controller...
<phschafft> but hey, the board now has three PS/2 ports, two RS-232 ports, I²C, SPI/ISP, a port for a LCD, power port, and a ground port for easy testing...
<nephele> phschafft: the S3 i use only has one use port, so i can't maintain a connection to it and configure a usb peripheral... quite annoying :)
<phschafft> hm...
<phschafft> :(
<Habbie> nephele, esp32?
<nephele> No, S3
<nephele> like samsung galaxy S3
<Habbie> there's an esp32-s3, hence my question
<Habbie> ohhhh
<nephele> for some reason the wifi antenna broke, linux sais it doesn't exist..., so was trying to use usb host mode with a micro usb b "OTG" cable to connect a usb ethernet or usb wifi card for network connectivity
<nephele> Habbie: ah :)
<Habbie> maybe a hub works
<Habbie> although i think you want both directions
<Habbie> so maybe not
<nephele> A hub works, yes. But i can't ssh into it without a device that would accept beeing in usb client mode for this
<nephele> i think my laptop will not do this
* phschafft was initially thinking futro...
<nephele> or well, i assume a hub would work... i've no way to verify it yet. also don't know if the host mode even works
<nephele> i guess i could flash pmos onto the other S3 and see if that works with usb host mode, and try to copy a working config
<phschafft> do you also have that little voice in your that whenever you buy a ribbon cable to buy the rainbow coloured one?
<gordonjcp> phschafft: always rainbow colour ribbon cable
<nephele> Lol, wikipedia agrees with you phschafft
<phschafft> haha :)
<ParseAsBNF> Good bye everybody...
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<nekobot> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/36ee9e6f96eb...7d537e1161ad
<nekobot> • korli (7d537e11): llvm20: try to fix x86 build
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<Anarchos> it seems i built my own haiku package and now i can't update with pkgman :/
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<Anarchos> how to ignore bad checksum while upgrading haiku ?
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