<OscarL>
Managed to start the PC after fiddling with it for awhile... but had to overvolt the southbridge. and still get ocassional freezes. One of them... with the PC speaker/beeper going at full blast for some reason :-/
<Begasus[m]>
about 40 minutes for full build-tools + Haiku , not bad I think :)
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<OscarL>
(motherboard is in its last leg, this time for good it seems :-/)
<Begasus[m]>
jikes OscarL :(
<OscarL>
hello there poopnugget142. cool nick :-P
<poopnugget142>
Hello, thank you
<Begasus[m]>
Hi poopnugget142
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<poopnugget142>
I booted up and started using haiku again after I got very furious with windows notepad ui
<Begasus[m]>
heh
<OscarL>
from the muon build: "Run-time dependency libarchive found: YES 3.7.9". Nice.
<Begasus[m]>
told you so :)
<OscarL>
"Dependency libpkgconf found: NO. Found 1.5.3 but need: '>=1.9.0'" not so nice.
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: yeah, couldn't confirm yesterday myself with all the PC problems :-D
<Begasus[m]>
err ... that worked yesterday?
<Begasus[m]>
anyway, round 1 for the dogs/chores :)
<Begasus[m]>
biab
<OscarL>
"yesterday == before I went to sleap and woke up again"
<OscarL>
or you mean the libpkgconf was detected yesterday for muon?
<OscarL>
darn, I built muon 0.5.0 instead of the intended 0.4.0.
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<OscarL>
There we go... works for 0.4.0 indeed: "Run-time dependency libpkgconf found: YES 1.5.3"
<Begasus[m]>
round 1 OK :)
<OscarL>
"undrafted" the muon PR, but should be merged only after the builders finish libarchive-3.7.9, of course.
* Begasus[m]
pokes waddlesplash kallisti5 :)
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<Begasus[m]>
can't poke mmlr :P
<Begasus[m]>
OscarL: did you check the PR from habbie ?
<OscarL>
can't get the bootstrap muon build for either 0.4.0 nor 0.5.0 to progrees much. fails on [1/139] :-D
<Begasus[m]>
I never used "pass", so not really sure how to use it :)
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: the one for adding clipboard handling on pass? looks decent to me (without having tried to use it)
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<Begasus[m]>
yeah, looking at it it seems fine, but no expert here (also not sure who really uses it) :)
<OscarL>
looks like a regular password manager, I'd probably use it if I did any "real" browsing from Haiku.
<Begasus[m]>
but looking at it, there isn't anything else using it (eg standalone), let's merge
<OscarL>
in which case... it supporting clipboard iin Haiku would be more than nice :-)
<nekobot>
• Habbie (881b8941): pass: support Haiku clipboard (#12410)
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: it is an "end-user" type of utility. I would not expect other recipes to depend on it.
<OscarL>
(missed your "standalone" mention)
<Begasus[m]>
doesn't hurt to check OscarL ;)
<OscarL>
not at all.
<Begasus[m]>
crossing fingers* (now)
<Begasus[m]>
connection failed: timed out :/
<OscarL>
"It's dead, Jim".
<Begasus[m]>
OscarL: maybe time to update libpkgconf? ;)
<OscarL>
wonder what new dependencies I can add there... mmm
<OscarL>
:-P
<Begasus[m]>
lol
<Habbie>
yay
<Habbie>
as for depending on it, there are GUIs for it i think
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<Begasus[m]>
morge habbie , add one? ;)
<Habbie>
although the 'database' is simple enough that some tools just implement their own management of it
<Habbie>
Begasus[m], i would have to look for one first!
<Habbie>
i haven't used any
<Habbie>
on linux i use gopass instead of pass, but, you know, Go. so that's for later
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<Begasus[m]>
no "go" :P
<Habbie>
why you no go
<Habbie>
why you go no go
<Habbie>
the lyrics write themselves
<Begasus[m]>
heh
<Begasus[m]>
we need someone with the skills there ;)
<Begasus[m]>
to "go" there*
<OscarL>
read a couple of times something like this: "I like some tools that happen to be written in Go, but have no desire to use/touch the language". (I agree)
<Begasus[m]>
could use an update on rust too
<poopnugget142>
rust is pretty amazing
<Habbie>
OscarL, this is kind of true for me. I don't like writing Go, but there's a ton of amazing tools written in it
<Habbie>
and if i want to patch something, i will
<Habbie>
i just don't enjoy the language much
<Habbie>
that said, the two PRs i remember doing for Go projects both ended in trouble
<Habbie>
(legal trouble!)
<Begasus[m]>
jikes habbie
<Habbie>
not big trouble
<Habbie>
just "please we need to relicense this project please help" and then a 3 page document to sign
<Habbie>
both times
<Habbie>
and i don't do that
<OscarL>
"That's illegal!" (not sure why I heard that in Moss' voice, from The IT Crowd)
<Begasus[m]>
I wouldn't either
<Habbie>
hehehe
<Habbie>
it's not illegal
<OscarL>
(I intended to post that a few lines earlier, I'm just too slow)
<OscarL>
Seen Lazarus reminds me that I can't really do any realy GUI work without a visual form designer (got spoiled by starting with Delphi). Would be so nice to have one for the native Haiku API.
<Begasus[m]>
OscarL: lazarus archive alone is only a bit over 47MB, wonder where it get's the rest from for the installation :P
<Begasus[m]>
fresh checkout for cudatext worked fine, good enough for me :)
<OscarL>
lots of uncompressed source codes files, each with its compiled unit, besides the final libs and such, I would assume.
<Begasus[m]>
not going to break my head over this :)
<OscarL>
lazarus is too large for my taste on Win too, specially compared to Delphi.
<Begasus[m]>
but also not going to package this :P
<OscarL>
doesn't the installation also install the full source code? IIRC, to add components, you basically needed to recompile the whole thing (unlike delphi, where you just compiled a "package" and then you loaded that into the IDE).
<Begasus[m]>
fpc is from the package in the depot, so not related to that
<Begasus[m]>
a plus is indeed that lazarus can compile itself this way
<OscarL>
in any case... going from 47 MB to ~1GB seems "a bit" excessive :-D
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: IIRC, theres also a "smart linking" option/setting that if not enabled, tends to produce overly large binaries.
<Begasus[m]>
OscarL: I'm happy enough the script is still working :)
<Begasus[m]>
haven't fiddled with options :)
* OscarL
half-remembers fighting a bit with binary sizes around the times of BePascal / FPC 3.0
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<Begasus[m]>
afk for a bit
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<Begasus[m]>
re
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<myriad>
Hello everyone! Divya (myriad) here. I'm returning after a ~2 month break for studies. I used to contribute a bit back in March and spent some time in this IRC. You might not remember me as I wasn't around very long, but I'm excited to be back and looking forward to getting involved again!
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<phschafft>
:)
<phschafft>
then, welcome back! :)
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<myriad>
:)
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<Begasus[m]>
wb myriad
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<kallisti5[m]>
manually forces a build of vim and crosses fingers
<kallisti5[m]>
requires "haiku" of package "vim-9.1.1153" could not be resolved :-|
<kallisti5[m]>
ooooh i need system-packages
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<nephele_jabberfr>
Hi
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<Begasus[m]>
hi nephele_jabberfr
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<Begasus[m]>
../src/system/boot/loader/elf.cpp:316:33: error: format '%llx' expects argument of type 'long long unsigned int', but argument 4 has type 'size_t' {aka 'long unsigned int'} [-Werror=format=]
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<phschafft>
likely that should be %zx
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<Begasus[m]>
anyone got this also?
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<phschafft>
if the argument is a size_t and the format string is %llx then that *is* a bug.
<kallisti5[m]>
blah. yeah, I should have used a different macro there. will fix
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<Begasus[m]>
thanks :)
<phschafft>
the problem with this type of warning is that it informs you about memory corruption.
<phschafft>
it IS an error, not just a warning.
<phschafft>
if they want to use B_PRIx64 there, then they must make sure it is actually a 64 bit integer.
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<Begasus[m]>
I can only report ;)
* Begasus[m]
hands phschafft a chocolate :)
<phschafft>
mau...
<Begasus[m]>
I made it through the day without building anything KDE related! :D
<phschafft>
haha
<nephele_jabberfr>
phschafft: it is an error here though, not a warning
<Begasus[m]>
lol, just opene Alligator and see GCompris is updated :P
<Skipp_OSX>
cc1plus: all warnings being treated as errors ok fine
<Skipp_OSX>
maybe the boot loader is a bit more strict about that
<nephele_jabberfr>
this is added in lots of components, but not really a good idea...
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<phschafft>
nephele_jabberfr: my comment was about Skipp_OSX being sceptial that pulling off randum number of bits from the stack might be a problem. not about the output of the compiler. I think the compiler did a good job. :)
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<Skipp_OSX>
how do I build the boot loader from jam?
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<Skipp_OSX>
you just have to cast to int64 but yeah it's a bug :/
<kallisti5[m]>
vim-9.1.1153, dependency autoconf_archive-2024.10.16 cannot be built: Error: Port autoconf_archive-2024.10.16 depends on itself :-\
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 30e1b0862f75 - TextSearch: add a simple file filter.
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<Begasus[m]>
that will make OscarL happy :)
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<myriad>
okay so I was able to install and run haiku after some workaround. But when I tried to shutdown I got this message. Sorry about the image quality.The first line says "PANIC : SMAP violation user-mapped address 0xffffffff9c8280d0 touched from kernel 0xffffffff820bb490". And the line after Welcome to kernel debug.... says "Thread 879 "shutdown worker" running on CPU 8 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ItvIq2XS/1000124829.jpg
<myriad>
Damn why did the image quality dropped after uploading
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<Begasus[m]>
kallisti5 (@kallisti5:matrix.org) buildmasters still down :/
<kallisti5[m]>
oh? riscv64 is up 😆
* kallisti5[m]
looks
<kallisti5[m]>
yeah.. it's down. waddlesplash could you reach out to mmlr?
<waddlesplash>
will do
<kallisti5[m]>
both are unavailable
<Begasus[m]>
yep, already a few days
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<myriad>
This issue only arises while shutting down, restarting works fine. Should I worry about it or leave it and focus on other stuff?
<nephele_jabberfr>
myriad: you can open a ticket, you don't need to fix it yourself
<Begasus[m]>
OK, enough playing for today
<Begasus[m]>
still counts as a day without KDE development (GCompris doesn't count there) :P
<Begasus[m]>
cu peeps!
<myriad>
nephele_jabberfr: okay
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<yann64[m]>
hi, has anybody implemented futex for Haiku ? (wait, wake, etc)
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<x512[m]>
yann64: Futex with arbitrary value is not yet implemented in Haiku because nobody explained yet why is it really needed. Domain-specific futex is used for Haiku pthread mutex/condvar/sem support.
<x512[m]>
If someone want Futex with arbitrary value support in Haiku, example projects that need it should be provided and benchmarked.
<x512[m]>
It is used for implementing some non-standard synchronization primitives.
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