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<zeldakatze[m]>
<waddlesplash> "I think zeldakatze and yn0ga are..." <- I'll try once I find some free time to fix up the kernel loading. currently the system just freezes once the kernel is loaded
<janking>
i get bad gateway when im going to the Haiku forun :)
<janking>
some one to help with that
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<zeldakatze[m]>
<fancy2209[m]> "Welp won't be able to check if..." <- I managed to get bootstrapping for ppc working by commenting out texlive from the haikuports.cross repository list
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<janking>
i get bad gateway when im going to the Haiku forun :) can you help me that nipos?
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<janking>
i get bad gateway when im going to the Haiku forun :) can you help me that nipos?
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<Skipp_OSX>
it means your IP is banned, VPN?
<Skipp_OSX>
are you in the UK per chance?
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<poopnugget142>
is there a comprehensive guide of all of the haiku keybinds?
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<Begasus[m]>
bugger ... ImportError: cannot import name 'QWebEnginePage' from 'qt.webengine' (/packages/calibre-8.4.0-1/.self/apps/Calibre/lib/calibre/qt/webengine.py)
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<Begasus[m]>
OscarL, if you are reading this, maybe one for you? ;) ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'netifaces'
<Begasus[m]>
also mentioned in current Calibre
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<janking>
back :)
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<Hanicef[m]>
<Halian> "It's my birthday <|:D" <- hap birf to you
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<fancy2209[m]>
<zeldakatze[m]> "I managed to get bootstrapping..." <- Oh I just installed ncurses-dev like you're meant to
<fancy2209[m]>
That fixed texinfo
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<Begasus[m]>
texlive in haikuports.cross?
<Begasus[m]>
not familiar there, but sounds off ...
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<Habbie>
texinfo, not texlive
<Begasus[m]>
texinfo was what fancy2209 refered to, texlive was from zeldakatze's comment :)
<Begasus[m]>
figured texinfo, just wanted to be sure :)
<Habbie>
ahh
<Habbie>
yeah, i cannot imagine texlive in a cross/bootstrap
<Habbie>
as for texinfo, i feel it should be optional too, but i get how deps work
<Begasus[m]>
wouldn't be the first time texinfo stood in it's way
<zeldakatze[m]>
<Habbie> "yeah, i cannot imagine texlive..." <- iirc some programs need it to compile the documentation, so it makes sense to have it in a bootstrap environment
<Habbie>
oh texlive even, okay
<Habbie>
i do wonder if we could take that out of bootstrap
<Habbie>
having documentation on the target machine is not the first goal
<Begasus[m]>
@zeldakatze:fff.chat: sounds wrong that inside Haiku's sources it would call texlive?
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<zeldakatze[m]>
<Habbie> "having documentation on the..." <- if you do that you'd need multiple bootstrap builds as you'd then have to rebuild stuff multiple times
<Habbie>
very true
<Habbie>
i see the downsides
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<Begasus[m]>
I'm not familiar with the process, so I'll be quiet on that :)
<nekobot>
• Begasus (37601d49): gifsicle, bump to 1.96 (#12450)
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<Begasus[m]>
ow bugger, didn't think about REPLACES jmairboeck , good call! :)
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<Begasus[m]>
hmm ... jmairboeck only case of conflict for that would be on 32bit where the gcc2 version is still installed and not replaced with the new gcc13 one?
<Begasus[m]>
that is, if you have it installed
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<jmairboeck>
Begasus[m]: I added another comment on Github, I hope I explained it well now.
<Begasus[m]>
64bit: upgrade package gifsicle-1.94-2 to 1.96-1 from repository HaikuPorts
<jmairboeck>
yes, that doesn't need the REPLACES
<Begasus[m]>
ah, reverse engineering ;)
<jmairboeck>
but gifsicle_x86 needs it
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<Begasus[m]>
I'm always blown with this -n -z statements :)
<jmairboeck>
-n means not empty, -z means empty
<jmairboeck>
you could also check $targetArchitecture == x86_gcc2
<Begasus[m]>
a bit more clear now, but I'll probably forget it by the next time :)
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<Begasus[m]>
updated
<Begasus[m]>
no mention of REPLACES on 64bit, working on 32bit
<Begasus[m]>
biab
<Begasus[m]>
needed to clear some RAM :)
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<Begasus[m]>
k, first doing a check on latest commit for krita ...
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<politebot>
Begasus[m] and jmairboeck, thanks for your patience with my yazpp PR and for updating yaz (and libxml2!). I'm trying to learn native Haiku app development by making a graphical client: https://git.sr.ht/~politebot/Zed .
<fancy2209[m]>
Just curious, did BeOS support hardware GL?
<erysdren>
i believe so?
<erysdren>
there was GLTeapot after all
<Begasus[m]>
ah politebot
<Begasus[m]>
checking again, some changes in requires's sections (sort alphabeticly)
<Begasus[m]>
probably some whitespaces also (tab leftovers)
<waddlesplash>
fancy2209[m]: erysdren: I don't think so, not natively anyway. I think R6 might have had that on the roadmap though
<erysdren>
ah, fair
<Begasus[m]>
pkg-config output is fine politebot :)
<erysdren>
i wouldn't know, i wasn't even born when the last version of BeOS was released waddlesplash.
<waddlesplash>
LOL
<Begasus[m]>
woot! :D
<waddlesplash>
I was, but I was very young and of no age to know anything about computers :P
<Begasus[m]>
kiddos :P
<pol>
Begasus I tried to find the reason for this "netifaces" missing module error you were getting today.
<Begasus[m]>
found it pol ?
<Begasus[m]>
for one, we don't package it, that I knew, but not sure it's some internal python thing
<Begasus[m]>
if it's*
<pol>
I don't really know how to fix it but "pip install netifaces" should be possible.
<Begasus[m]>
nah, tried that ;)
<Begasus[m]>
errors with unsuported os
<pol>
But it's returning some error after Googling I found it's about "ifaddrs.h" file.
<Begasus[m]>
trips over HAVE_GETIFFADDRESS or the likes (haven't written it down)
<Begasus[m]>
right
<Begasus[m]>
OscarL is more familiar there I think, tried fiddling a bit in the source, then moved on to other things as the "error" also shows with current calibre in the depot, so no showstopper for now
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<pol>
It is in haiku in "/boot/system/develop/headers/bsd/" folder and there is a hint that one can modify the setup.py from the netifaces source to use that.
<Begasus[m]>
correct
<pol>
But I haven't found out how yet.
<Begasus[m]>
same here :)
<Begasus[m]>
and been busy today at haikuports PR's :)
<jmairboeck>
then it probably needs linking to libbsd
<jmairboeck>
if it has some native component that is built
<waddlesplash>
well then anyboot should work anyway
<Habbie>
what does mmc do? add a partition table?
<waddlesplash>
possibly
<Habbie>
a friend was looking at some chinese linux distro recenly, with separate 3GB downloads for "SD" and "MMC" and that surprised me; turns out the MMC was 12 files plus a config that could generate the SD image
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<Habbie>
but it was meant to go into separate MMC partitions
<Habbie>
pity there's no logging about finding root on your screen or stdio
<fancy2209[m]>
oh god I just realized
<fancy2209[m]>
this is emulating a G4 in a G3 Beige
<fancy2209[m]>
is that even possible in real life?
<Habbie>
i did not spot any Beige in your qemu line :)
<fancy2209[m]>
the default machine is g3beige
<fancy2209[m]>
I can tell because -M g3beige works
<fancy2209[m]>
and -M mac99 (NewWorld PowerMac) doesn't find the CD
<Habbie>
ah
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<Habbie>
still, i bet you will soon hit the point that getting that debug logging will be useful
<bjorkintosh>
fancy2209[m]: so did it boot?
<Habbie>
(my recent porting efforts, which were way easier than yours, also hit that point)
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<Skipp_OSX>
I'm in the weeds on BMenu still no idea why BPopUpMenu isn't working. If I make asynchronous _Wait is skipped but same bug. WindowUpdated() seems unrelated.
<Habbie>
fancy2209[m],
<Habbie>
oops
<Skipp_OSX>
the keyboard nav is off but it's also off on BeOS too
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 183a60a7bc56 - ICULocaleBackend: Validate that the created locale really exists.
<fancy2209[m]>
So apparently I accidentally forgot to compile this as debug
<Skipp_OSX>
It should be redrawing the window but isn't. A normal right-click pop-up redraw fine. It seems like something happening in BCountView is incompatible with my earlier changes but I do not know what.
<Habbie>
fancy2209[m], when you said you 'enabled everything', did that include the debug menu?
<fancy2209[m]>
I meant on the debug menu
<fancy2209[m]>
I enabled the 3 options
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<Habbie>
ok
<Habbie>
when i do that, my screen with the icons is full of text
<Habbie>
wonder if something is going wrong there
<fancy2209[m]>
very likely
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<fancy2209[m]>
need to make a debug build to debug better
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<ilzu[m]>
fancy2209: Great that someone is looking at the ppc port again. I played with the port with Yn0ga last autumn and we got into the kernel, but not far.
<Habbie>
fancy2209[m], btw, you can also look at the boot loader log 'so far' in that debug menu
<fancy2209[m]>
I applied y0nga's changes
<waddlesplash>
you'll want a serial line to see what's going on
<ilzu[m]>
fancy2209: about that far, though we got to kdl too.
<Habbie>
i saw -serial mon:stdio in fancy2209[m]'s qemu line
<Habbie>
but they reported no output there
<Habbie>
i suspect there's a few small steps that will go far here
<PulkoMandy>
On powerpc we probably rely on openfirmware for serial or on-ecreen output
<Habbie>
PulkoMandy, for on-screen, even with the boot loader framebuffer working?
<PulkoMandy>
So just enabling the #erial output window from qemu won't do anything, if your openfirmware doesn't know about it
<PulkoMandy>
Yes, the text could be written over it, if openfirm"are allows that. But there is also a compile time switch to disable the splashscreen and keep the onscreen console
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<Habbie>
right, i remember this from Sun hardware, writing text over the X display
<Habbie>
(kinda like KDL)
<Skipp_OSX>
sorta but with new world rom instead
<Habbie>
ack
<fancy2209[m]>
PulkoMandy: OF does know
<fancy2209[m]>
Haiku never uses Serial
<fancy2209[m]>
but OF does
<fancy2209[m]>
* Haiku never outputs to Serial for me
<Skipp_OSX>
OF yes that is similar to Sun
<fancy2209[m]>
s/OF/OpenFirmware/
<Skipp_OSX>
PPC ha
<fancy2209[m]>
I am currently recompiling with the loader as a debug build
<fancy2209[m]>
so I can use gef to debug like you show here
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<fancy2209[m]>
but no screen
<fancy2209[m]>
so I can't boot
<Hanicef[m]>
does anyone know the process of publishing something on haikuports? i forked the jxltranslator that is currently on haikuports and fixed it, and it would be nice if we could get the updated version published, too