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• OscarL (17e8b407): python3.12: update to version 3.12.11. (#12534)
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<OscarL>
Morning Begasus[m].
<OscarL>
wanna trade some of that european heat wave with some of the sub-zero temps from down here?
<OscarL>
(sorry about the typo on the 3.11 commit message :-/)
<OscarL>
fingers too stiff due to low temps. at least today I have an excuse :-P
<Begasus[m]>
Hola OscarL :)
<Begasus[m]>
can we meet in the middle? :)
<Begasus[m]>
expected today +34°C and going up tomorrow and wednesday
<qth[m]>
Any known issues with virtio?
<qth[m]>
I can't get network to work reliably
<qth[m]>
Sometimes I boot my haiku VM (hosted on freebsd / bhyve) and it has no network.
<qth[m]>
I can see packets go in the virtio interface from the VM using tcpdump
<qth[m]>
But nothing comes out on the hypervisor side
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<OscarL>
virtio net works fine for me on VirtualBox, and IIRC, worked for a while on VMware, but then gave me some issues, switched to ipro1000 or something like that. (Win10 host).
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: downloaded beta3 of python3.14. Will work on that later today (will run test suites on it). For 3.13... on 64 bits we'll need one of the admins to manually clean that workdir (I bet it got the boot/system file messing things up).
<qth[m]>
OscarL: I'll try that
<OscarL>
qth[m]: on VBox that worked too (the intel 1000 thingie). Just make sure to use the "Desktop" variant, if you see that option.
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<OscarL>
(IIRC, other options were "mt-server", or similar, that didn't worked for me)
<qth[m]>
I can confirm it works with e1000
<OscarL>
qth[m]: if you can (now that you have the data fresh in memory)... maybe open a ticket for that virtio-net issue over https://dev.haiku-os.org (I should have done so at the time, to be fair).
<Begasus[m]>
OscarL: maybe with the move to the new builders that issue for python3.13 is fixed/cleaned now?
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: don't think so, unless the 64 bits builder gets nuked and rebuild. (or at least the work-dirs get properly cleaned)
<Begasus[m]>
hmm nothing happening on the buildmasters?
<Begasus[m]>
python3.9 should at least be building
<OscarL>
I think the x86/x86_64 ones are "paused" still by kallisti5[m].
<Begasus[m]>
ah, right, could be that
<Begasus[m]>
Warning: POLICY WARNING: "/packaging/libxmlb/lib/libxmlb.so.2" needs library "libstemmer.so.3", but the package doesn't seem to declare that as a requirement
<Begasus[m]>
at least update to snowball-stemmer worked :P
<OscarL>
Today I had a very bad case of "computers hate me!" case. I was *this* close to smash the netbook against the wall, and start kicking the old desktop. Now that things more or less work, and managed to udpate some recipes... time to call it quits for a while :-D
<Begasus[m]>
don't jinx it :)
<OscarL>
Will eat something hot to help with the cold... and play some more old Stalker, if PC allows :-)
<Begasus[m]>
cu later :)
<OscarL>
See you around Begasus[m]! Have a great day, and stay hydrated!
<Begasus[m]>
enjoy the food :)
<OscarL>
thx! Later folks!
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<Begasus[m]>
still no answer nephele ?
<nephele>
is seems they have not yet implemented it fully
<nephele>
and have not yet responded to storage requests as a consequence
<Begasus[m]>
it's not a small repo, can imagine they need some conversation about it
<nephele>
no, i mean, they have not implemtned storage limits in general
<nephele>
I'm back to reading about name constraints, it seems that rolling my own CA is still the "best" option currently
<nephele>
unfortunately Haiku still doesn't really do ipv6 that well, but i will need it for my mail server :g
<Begasus[m]>
fix it? :P
<nephele>
I might have to indeed
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<phschafft>
morning.
<nephele>
hi phschafft :)
<Begasus[m]>
noon phschafft :)
<nephele>
phschafft: what do you think of the glorious idea of doing ones own CA? This is the second time I'm gonna do that :D
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<nephele>
Yesterday i was still thinking acme_client, but the only non-US provider i knew of such certs seems to have just been bought by some "we have a lot of companies" company...
<Begasus[m]>
bah, error after error on glib-2.80.0 :(
<Begasus[m]>
now: ../gio/kqueue/gkqueuefilemonitor.c:114:24: error: 'NOTE_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function); did you mean 'NOTE_EXIT'?
<Begasus[m]>
and no patches that use NOTE_DELETE :(
<Begasus[m]>
nothing with hgrepall
<Begasus[m]>
so not implemented in Haiku it seems
<nephele>
sounds more like a private thing Begasus[m]?
<Begasus[m]>
sec, doggies :)
<phschafft>
nephele: I prefer not to communicate my opinion ;)
<Begasus[m]>
how do you do it nephele ? (brake linux install) :)
<nephele>
I changed nothing begasus
<nephele>
it just doens't respond to the mouse at all anymore in KDE. It ignores when i try to open any menu or launch apps...
<Begasus[m]>
jikes
<Begasus[m]>
well, only have one linux install I hardly use (just in a few cases), so far things are good, only wake up after it fell asleep is bogus (multiple linux's tried)
<Begasus[m]>
but granted, that laptop is a bit bogus on shutdown on Haiku also :)
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<Shaka444>
what do I do if I run into "configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one" when compiling?
<Begasus[m]>
cmake?
<Begasus[m]>
meson?
<Shaka444>
set automake version in config?
<Shaka444>
cmake
<Begasus[m]>
-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release ?
<Begasus[m]>
I don't think automake is involved in cmake projects
<Begasus[m]>
that should be enough, you can set prefix to your liking
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<Begasus[m]>
one liner: cmake -Bbuild -S. -G Ninja -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX:PATH=/boot/home/destdir
<Begasus[m]>
then "ninja -C build -jn" and "ninja -C build install"
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<Begasus[m]>
if something is missing install required devel packages, all should be in the depot
<Shaka444>
doing that now :-)
<Shaka444>
"ninja: fatal: invalid -j parameter" ?
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<Begasus[m]>
lol
<Begasus[m]>
I thought that was obvious, replace "n" with the number of cpu's you would like to use, I used "-j8" :)
<Begasus[m]>
cpu's/jobs
<Begasus[m]>
whoops, broke gtk4 :P
<Shaka444>
oh!!
<Shaka444>
Worked! :-)
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<Shaka444>
it runs with the -s option. The interface is a little wonky :-)
<Begasus[m]>
yeah, just launched it earlier, not sure what to do with it, but if you find it usefull :)
<Shaka444>
but will be cool to play with, and one less reason for me to switch over to Linux ;-)
<Begasus[m]>
for a notemanager?
<Begasus[m]>
should be alternatives in the depot for that already I think
<Shaka444>
its basically a "Safe" so store stuff like passwds
<Begasus[m]>
plenty of those around too :)
<Shaka444>
yes, but I wanted to see if I could run this since I use it already
<Begasus[m]>
ah, that's a bonus then :D
<Shaka444>
Thanks for all the help!
<Begasus[m]>
np, that was an easy one :)
<Shaka444>
yes! :-)
<Shaka444>
shows the maturity of Haiku ;-)
<Begasus[m]>
gtk3 has a patch to disable the shadows for the windows, doesn't apply for gtk4 :/
<dovsienko>
hmmm... since I updated VirtualBox from 7.1.8 to 7.1.10, Haiku no longer manages to acquire a DHCP lease. as far tcpdump sees it, the DHCP server replies with an offer, but the client keeps sending discover as if it has not received anything
<dovsienko>
I wonder if it has to do with the recent changes to the network stack rather that the VirtualBox update
<dovsienko>
hrev58933 it is
<bjorkintosh>
dovsienko: VBox tends to suck.
<bjorkintosh>
what I've done is created a dedicated machine (if you have one available), that runs proxmox.
<dovsienko>
bjorkintosh: worked OK before, I can downgrade to eliminate this factor
<Shaka444>
hmm did my ntfs usb stick just unmount itself? that was weird
<bjorkintosh>
it's solved all my VM problems.
<bjorkintosh>
dovsienko: or skip altogether and never have that problem.
<dovsienko>
bjorkintosh: the thing is, with Haiku I have to have a screen for the GUI
<bjorkintosh>
of course. that's how I run haiku.
<bjorkintosh>
it's just in a browser window.
<bjorkintosh>
along with several other OSes on proxmox.
<dovsienko>
and how do you get the screen from the Haiku VM that runs on a separate box under Proxmox?
<bjorkintosh>
I can create a screenshot if you like.
<dovsienko>
if it shows how, it would be interesting to see
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<dovsienko>
(I've been aware of VNC since around 1998, but vbox display is way more responsive)
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] b5154008846f - BButton: Document AdoptSystemColors() and HasSystemColors() in the Haiku Book.
<Begasus[m]>
someone has been busy :)
<Begasus[m]>
I saw BeTeX doesn't render colors well in dark mode ... could use some patches there I guess
<kallisti5[m]>
<OscarL> "I think the x86/x86_64 ones are..." <- correct. We're having some issues with buildmaster. I'm working up some patches now to try and solve the pain (or at least reduce it slightly)
<kallisti5[m]>
tldr; it really likes erasing 90GiB of haikuports packages and erasing state files which are impossible to generate without 90GiB of packages also on the buildmaster container
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<kallisti5[m]>
adding some basic automatic safety features to allow us to "try again" without re-uploading almost 200GiB of hpkg's 😭
<bjorkintosh>
dovsienko: still, if you have a spare computer laying around, install proxmox as the main os. it's really quite good if you like to play with VMs.
<gordonjcp>
bjorkintosh: I need to have a play with proxmox at some point
<gordonjcp>
bjorkintosh: mostly I'm using a mixture of Xen and Qemu right now, with a lot of Windows 7, Server 2008, and XP machines in qemu with their consoles exposed via Apache Guacamole
<Skipp_OSX>
does proxmox have GPU guest support?
<bjorkintosh>
https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/PCI_Passthrough PCI passthrough allows you to use a physical PCI device (graphics card, network card) inside a VM (KVM virtualization only).
<Skipp_OSX>
cool ok
<bjorkintosh>
it's pretty much like the ubuntu of VMs.
<bjorkintosh>
people prefer to do it raw (qemu, xen and whatever)
<bjorkintosh>
I don't. I just want to play with different OSes.
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<Begasus[m]>
nice, all tests pass
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<Begasus[m]>
OK, review can start on harfbuzz and gtk4 :)
<Anarchos>
Begasus[m] oh nice
<Skipp_OSX>
but no Ctrl+Tab support I suppose.
<Skipp_OSX>
I had no idea that Switcher didn't work on GTK apps
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<Anarchos>
Begasus[m] [BeTeX] icons are image of letters , converted to byte arrays , and put back in source code as hard coded arrays. At those times, there were no dark mode. So they are black on transparent background. That's why on dark mode, they are still black letters on black background.
<Anarchos>
Begasus[m] i wouls rahter qualified your issue as 'enhancement' because dark mode post-dates BeTeX ;)
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