<nephele>
that's one of the least expensive ones. for only 5,6K USD
<Begasus[m]>
Haiku Inc. should give use some virtual env that we could access over ssh :D
<Begasus[m]>
nah, not for me also nephele ;)
<nephele>
we already have that as a possibility. one haiku user has this device and iirc offered to let people use that over ssh for development
<nephele>
though probably easier to try and get the bootup working in qemu first
<Begasus[m]>
if even I (with kallisti5 help) can boot a riscv64 image in qemu on Haiku I'm sure you will get it too :)
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<nephele>
It's another architecture, the bringup still has to be done
<nephele>
not a finished image unfortunately
<Begasus[m]>
Hola OscarL !
<OscarL>
Good morning folks. Hey there Begasus[m] :-)
<Begasus[m]>
ah, big wip then nephele
<nephele>
Begasus[m]: I wonder however if Haiku Inc can buy such a board, and then it can be send between haiku devs or something. Might be an option since these are so damn expensive. If that is ever considered
<nephele>
only the blackbird board with cpu still costs like 3k
<Begasus[m]>
haven't fiddled with building PC's here for years, not since I switched to the laptops
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: regarding that netiface thing for calibre... current version works without it (even if it misses a bit of functionality), right?
<nephele>
if you use a pc as a tool it's really not worth it >:(
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<Begasus[m]>
OscarL: yeah, it's mentioned if you launch from Terminal, but doesn't prevent from running
<OscarL>
*current version as in... the one on the repos, I mean.
* Begasus[m]
thinking what it was again that needed it ...
<OscarL>
newer version of calibre also works the same? (as in... complains on console but starts anyway)
<Begasus[m]>
lol, should read more clearly :P
<Begasus[m]>
yeah, same thing
<OscarL>
alright...
<Begasus[m]>
can't update though, PDF files are fine, ebooks are not opened :/
<Begasus[m]>
that's why I tried launching from Terminal (me being back on par) :)
<OscarL>
issue wiht ebooks is unlikely to be related to the lack of netiface.
<Begasus[m]>
right, would have been cought for the current version in the depot also then
<OscarL>
I ask this to give my "formal expert" suggestion.... forget about netiface until upstream adds support for Haiku (or some other contributor does) :-)
<Begasus[m]>
:) you were the first that came to mind here :P
<Begasus[m]>
k, on assimp
<Begasus[m]>
libVersion changed to 6.0.1, but compat stayed at 5, hence the change in the recipe for that, if I don't do that it will bring down Qt5 for one ...
<OscarL>
needs someone to write code to interface with the OS to query stuff about network interfaces... and I'm neither skilled enough, nor interested enough in it :-D
<Begasus[m]>
heh
<Begasus[m]>
no problem, hasn't been an issue yet
<OscarL>
also.... seems very few stuff actually makes use of netiface besides calibre, and upstream seems pretty "dead".
<Begasus[m]>
only briefly touched the source to see it was way out of my skills too
<OscarL>
in case you manage to solve the issue with ebooks opening in calibre, give a shout before updating the recipe. I'd want to get a small patch in in it before merging.
<nekobot>
• Fancy2209 (b20b0278): less_bootstrap: Add ppc to architectures (#40)
<OscarL>
seems like it is the only *active* recipe that still uses 3.9 (even if at build time)
<Begasus[m]>
there
<Begasus[m]>
I've got a slight feeling buildmaster is stuck on LLVM20
<Begasus[m]>
sci... (did geos and gdal already yesterday) :)
<Begasus[m]>
k, downloading qgis
<Begasus[m]>
OscarL: doesn't mention qgis in runtime in the recipe :/
<Begasus[m]>
qgis/python/*
<OscarL>
right, thus why I asked to see if it can be built with 3.10
<Begasus[m]>
does it run without python3.9?
<OscarL>
(most probably only need to be "cmd:python3" in that BUIILD_PREREQUIRES)
<Begasus[m]>
changed to python3.10 now
<OscarL>
(if it needs python at all at build time)
<Begasus[m]>
now you tell me! :P
<OscarL>
I see "-DWITH-BINDINGS=FALSE", so it might not need it.
<Begasus[m]>
good thing it was still at extracting, commented out now
<OscarL>
(unless it has some python scripts for build)
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<Begasus[m]>
ah right
<Begasus[m]>
upstreamed some patches for the KDE frameworks and the python bindings (shiboken6/pyside6) in the last days
<OscarL>
nice!
<Begasus[m]>
not feature complete there (wrong install path for kcoreaddons)
<OscarL>
every bit counts!
<OscarL>
(says me paying for megabyte of internet :-P)
<Begasus[m]>
yeah, but looking in the source for kcoreaddons I don't see a path being set, so I think it reads it from some configuration?
<Begasus[m]>
Could NOT find Python (missing: Python_EXECUTABLE Interpreter) (Required is...
<Begasus[m]>
so that still needs python ...
<OscarL>
build stops?
<Begasus[m]>
yeah, get an error message for it
<Begasus[m]>
works now: -- Python site-packages: /packages/python3.10-3.10.17-1/.self/lib/python3.10/vendor-packages
<OscarL>
OK. so it wants cmd:python3.xx to know where to place the resulting bindings, if they were enabled. Might be better to add a comment about that next to the cmd:python3.10
<OscarL>
something like: "if bindings are enabled, they will be built for this python version", or something like that.
<Begasus[m]>
had it commented out in the recipe, now just using "cmd:python3"
<OscarL>
cmd:python3 would be OK if it wasn't wanting to use site-packages.
<Begasus[m]>
a bit overkill I think, no need to explain existing requirements for every recipe
<OscarL>
so it should be "cmd:python3.10"
<pol>
OscarL if you want one of us can re-compress any images or packages that you need and upload them so you save some data.
<Habbie>
OscarL, i saw your note about me submitting my intel work - but i can't, it's currently "wrong but working"
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: as you wish, I was just commenting because if bindings are enabled, then cmd:python3.xx must match the python version on REQUIRES. No biggie.
<Begasus[m]>
once the build complete I'll try enabling the bindings OscarL , let's see how that goes :) (no need to enable it for haikuports but could be handy for checking this) :)
<Begasus[m]>
biab, doggies
<Begasus[m]>
ps hi pol and habbie :)
<Habbie>
hi!
<OscarL>
Habbie: ah, ok then. I was going for a bit of a friendly elbowing, to avoid having that patch forgotten too long :-)
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: most excellent. Thank you.,
<Habbie>
it won't be forgotten, i will be reminded of it every time i rebase my branch
<OscarL>
currently my main machine is the Celeron N4020 based netbook... if this was the quad code version... I could get pretty used to it without missing the Phenom much (other than for playing some older singleplayer FPS)
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<OscarL>
hello pol (sorry, missed your comment). Thanks for the offer. I think it won't be necessary, because I mostly avoid working with large packages anyway (machines too slow :-D), but I appreciate the offer!
<pol>
When trying to install netifaces I found this guide https://0x0.st/8Yjj.txt and when it asks to find the ifaddress.h file I found the similar ifaddrs.h file.
<OscarL>
for larger things... now that I'm using a netbook... I should try to find some open wifi spot for the download/upload, if need arises. (have one about 5 Km)
<OscarL>
yeah, it *might* be solvable without that much effort, but if calibre can work without it... I rather not add one more python dependency (no other project seems to need netifaces anyway)
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<Begasus[m]>
you can always poke me (or someone else being able to run haikuporter) for any project OscarL , probably still need some advice when it comes to python things :)
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<OscarL>
Thanks Begasus[m].
<Begasus[m]>
pol: can't get a hit on searching for "ifaddress.h" here
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: re: gzip 1.9... as it provides no "lib:"... I don't think we need to keep that version up.
<Begasus[m]>
help me out, what was that about again? :)
<Begasus[m]>
and I think it's already obsoled by the current one
<OscarL>
(on the repositories/HaikuPorts/x86_* files)
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<Begasus[m]>
yeah, just checked
<Begasus[m]>
the one in riscv64 should be updated too :)
* OscarL
hates this PS/2 to USB keyboard/mouse adapter. Sends PrintScreen every time NumLock is enabled and you press any arrow keys (among others)
<Begasus[m]>
old "x86" still has 1.8 :P
<Begasus[m]>
eeps
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<OscarL>
with NumLock disabled... shift+arrows *also* generates a PrintScreen. Sigh. (does the same on Win/Lin/Haiku, so not a driver problem)
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<OscarL>
that old x86 file should probably be best nuked from orbit. :-)
<OscarL>
is llvm20 stuck on builders, or just taking longer than usual with the added targets?
<Begasus[m]>
already mentioned earlier that I "think" it's stuck :)
<Begasus[m]>
though 32bit still seems active, progressed since I last checked
<OscarL>
I normally open the logs to check, but not doing that over cellphone with that beast of a package :-)
<Begasus[m]>
heh
<Begasus[m]>
np, already did :)
<Begasus[m]>
2025-06-01 16:09:36,983: moving package llvm20_python310-20.1.4-2-x86_64.hpkg to cache
<pol>
It does not find the ifadress file because this could have been a typo by the author of this blog, it's ifaddrs as I said.
<Begasus[m]>
ah, my bad then pol :)
<Begasus[m]>
grabbing qgis-3.24.3-5-x86_64.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports/packages/qgis-3.24.3-5-x86_64.hpkg
<Begasus[m]>
so far so good OscarL :)
<OscarL>
does the "fife" .hpkg contains any python code?
<Begasus[m]>
let's launch this ...
<OscarL>
good Begasus[m], so we at leas know we don't need to keep 3.9 for qgis then!
<OscarL>
*least
<Begasus[m]>
OscarL: on a quick check I don't see anythin python related in there
<pol>
But simply changing link to True in that function does not help with installation anyway. Hopefully the lack of this package won't break the calibre web server functionality.
<OscarL>
I see "-DPYTHON_SITE_PACKAGE=$prefix/[...]/python-3.9/vendor-packages" in the fife .recipe, but it doesn't REQUIRES python3.9, and BUILD_PREREQUIRES asks for cmd:python3 (which should match the one used in the -DPYTHON... define)
<fancy2209[m]>
Still haven't made progress but I noticed some functions that are in asm are are undef'd and replaced with inline functions, and PowerPC doesn't have these inline versions
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<Begasus[m]>
fails launching ... runtime_loader: /boot/system/lib/libpq.so: Could not resolve symbol 'pg_tolower'
<fancy2209[m]>
fancy2209[m]: Functions like the ones to enable interrupts
<Begasus[m]>
postgresql related?
<OscarL>
is that for qgis 3.24.3?
<Begasus[m]>
yes OscarL
<Begasus[m]>
got version 12 installed here, maybe supported by an other version?
<OscarL>
then pretty weird, as it doesn't requires postgress in the recipe.
<Begasus[m]>
26: 0000000000000000 0 NOTYPE GLOBAL DEFAULT UND pg_tolower
<Begasus[m]>
it does: devel:libpq$secondaryArchSuffix
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<OscarL>
why can't they name the libraries better then? :-P
<Begasus[m]>
take it up with upstream? :P
<Begasus[m]>
no mention for pg_tolower in qgis sources ...
<OscarL>
so... libpq.so (from postgresql package) is the one missing a pg_tolower() function... that should be from postgresql itself. What we're missing in that package then?
<Begasus[m]>
hmm ... according to Fedora latest version still uses Qt5, might be worth checking that out?
<Begasus[m]>
readelf -s showed the output as UND I posted before
<OscarL>
sounds unrelated to qt5 to me, at least. more like some sort of issue when linking the postgresql libs perhaps?
<Begasus[m]>
let's try without ...
<OscarL>
yeah, that UND should have a T counterpart on some other of the postgresql libs, I would expect.
<OscarL>
do we miss a "libpgport.so", or libpgport.a is not properly linked at build time?
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<Begasus[m]>
no .so, the .a is in the package though
<Begasus[m]>
-- Could NOT find PostgreSQL (missing: PostgreSQL_LIBRARY PostgreSQL_INCLUDE_DIR)
<Begasus[m]>
let's see how this works out
<Begasus[m]>
biab :)
<OscarL>
questions are... did qgis worked before? does the one from repos?, or perhaps more to the point... does the version from repo works with postgresql 9.6.10?
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* nephele
waves
<nephele>
Begasus[m]: tried with windows(tm), now my computer gpu works properly it seems
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<OscarL>
hey there nephele.
* OscarL
tries to decide if is time to make some coffee, or just hit the bed instead.
<Habbie>
when in doubt, bed
<OscarL>
would be cool if "pkgman search -r" allowed to specify a version constraint. (want to know what, if anything, requires old version of postgresql's libpq.so).
<OscarL>
Habbie: I might attempt both then... get some hot coffee to warm me up, and hit the bed before caffeine kicks in (if at all) :-)
<Habbie>
lol
<nephele>
OscarL: try the script in third-party/pulkomandy
<nephele>
though that probably won't list remove constraints
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<OscarL>
nephele: that works for packages under /system, while pkgman search -r works for uninstalled packages too.
<OscarL>
being able to search for requierments on *other* platforms would be cool too (without requiring to boot in to say x86 32 bits to check packages for that arch)
<nephele>
sounds like something to add OscarL
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<nephele>
beeing able to verify who keeps pulling in old packages would make some packagers workflows much easier
<OscarL>
(also yes, Adrien script strips version requirements)
<OscarL>
indeed.
<Begasus[m]>
coffee refill ...
<Begasus[m]>
95% atm OscarL
<Begasus[m]>
(without postgresql)
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<Begasus[m]>
question, would it make sense to have both postgresql and sqllite in there?
<OscarL>
depends on how are used.
<Begasus[m]>
with mariadb working fine, it could be an alternative also maybe
<OscarL>
might be the case that both are used to be able to load different datasets, for example.
<Begasus[m]>
ps, will check once the build finishes with the one from the depot first
<Begasus[m]>
correct
<OscarL>
+1
<nephele>
in where Begasus[m]?
<OscarL>
nephele: qgsis recipe
<OscarL>
*qgis
<Begasus[m]>
problem 1: package qgis-3.24.3-5 requires lib:libpq>=11.1, but none of the providers can be installed
<Begasus[m]>
so that's one question solved :)
<OscarL>
now question changed to... does it works with libpq 11.1 ? :-)
<Begasus[m]>
in a sec ... :)
<Begasus[m]>
runtime_loader: Cannot open file libgdal.so.30 (needed by /boot/system/apps/QGIS/QGIS): No such file or directory
<OscarL>
(postgresql code around that pg_tolower and libport.a hasn't significantly changed between 9.6 and 12, so wonder if something change in Haiku's headers might have affected how it gets built)
<Begasus[m]>
f*¨*** r :P
<OscarL>
lol
<nephele>
ah okay.
<Begasus[m]>
good thing I still had the old one in a backup :)
<Begasus[m]>
launched fine now
<OscarL>
lgrep pg_tolower ?
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<Begasus[m]>
31: 000000000002b5b6 118 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 11 pg_tolower
<Begasus[m]>
from readelf on libpq.so
<Begasus[m]>
so it's defined in 11 but not in 12
<OscarL>
so... something got borked in the 11 to 12 update :-(
<Begasus[m]>
that will be for later, will try a rebuild with postgresql11 now
<OscarL>
I assume that will work (with postgresql 11 from repos).
<Begasus[m]>
yeah, not rebuilding postgresql's for now :)
<OscarL>
woud be interesting to know if a "fresh" rebuilt 11 suffers the same problem as 12.
<OscarL>
OK :-D
<Begasus[m]>
getting a crash when running configure though (been that way from the start) https://0x0.st/8YeY.png
<Begasus[m]>
and the new gdal version is fine too :)
<Begasus[m]>
most of those sci* recipes are a pain to build, I can imagine not many people wanting to touch those :P
* Begasus[m]
eyes at extrowork/miqlas
<Begasus[m]>
;)
* OscarL
wonders if we really need postgresql-9.3.5
<Begasus[m]>
don't have anything installed that is using it at least
<OscarL>
thus why "pkgman search -r lib:libpq* < 9.6" would be nice to have :-D (or that pkgman clearly stated required versions)
<Begasus[m]>
noticed that there is still something using boost169 also :P
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* OscarL
wonders why on Earth *releasing* the shift key (after using it to select text with shift+arrows) generates a PrintScreen event on this silly ps/2->usb adaptor.
<Habbie>
lol
<Begasus[m]>
patches welcome? :P
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: if I was smart enough to patch the firmware on this thing... I would feel very proud of myself :-)
<Begasus[m]>
man ... even building kdevelop from source is faster then this qgis :P
<OscarL>
lovely! That spot in her eye... somewhat similar to one in mine. Wish I was that good looking, though :-)
<Begasus[m]>
s/source/master branch
<Begasus[m]>
lol
<Begasus[m]>
yeah, we still don't know where she got it from, but her eyes have been checked and confirmed to be fine
<OscarL>
re qgis.... well Begasus[m]... while reading logs last week I read you say something along the lines of: "I'm out of challenges". No need to thank me now! /me ducks
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<Begasus[m]>
lol
<Begasus[m]>
served me right :)
<Begasus[m]>
well, I'm glad enough to have Qt6.9.0 up and running with the qthaikuplugins :P
<Begasus[m]>
if I read it right Qt6.7* will only receive commercial support or something like that
<Begasus[m]>
almost there with qgis
<Begasus[m]>
if things work out fine I might as well look into it's latest release
<Begasus[m]>
or maybe see what's up with postgresql12
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<Begasus[m]>
lol: runtime_loader: Cannot open file libgdal.so.37 (needed by /boot/system/apps/QGIS/QGIS): No such file or directory
<Begasus[m]>
up and running :)
<Begasus[m]>
so, postgresql is borked, python3.10 is fine OscarL :)
<Begasus[m]>
postgresql12*
<OscarL>
BUILD() function hasn't changed between pg 11 and 12 recipes, so might be some change in Haiku and or gcc perhaps?
<Begasus[m]>
didn't check there yet, no changes in patches or the likes?
<OscarL>
thanks Begasus[m]. At least we can drop 3.9 (without making things worse) then :-)
* OscarL
checks the patchsets
<Begasus[m]>
right
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* Begasus[m]
hides ....
<OscarL>
not seeing anything particularly suspicious... besides your changes in configure.in :-P
<Begasus[m]>
Subject: Fix build with newer ldap (from upstream) (oof)
<OscarL>
but I don't know enough about autotools stuff, so I can't really tell either way :-)
<Begasus[m]>
that was a fix from upstream :)
<OscarL>
give that qgis worked with pg 11 from repos... I would first take note of on which version that package was built. (hrev)
<Begasus[m]>
let's hunt down repology for this ...
<Begasus[m]>
jikes, way behind there also
<OscarL>
if that 11 build was, say, from beta4 or earlier, maybe changes in gcc or in Haiku's headers has caused the change. (I keep thinking about changes in symbols visibility and on those -D{_DEFAULT,BSD,GNU}_SOURCE defines)
<OscarL>
too bad I have the memory of a coked up squirrel, apparently.
<Begasus[m]>
hmm ... could very well be pre beta5
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<Begasus[m]>
postgresql, revbump version for openssl3 (#10990)
<Begasus[m]>
nope, seeing dep for openssl3 revbump this must have been after beta5 was released
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<OscarL>
but did you tested qgis after that revbump? :-P
<Begasus[m]>
let's do a local build for postgresql11 and check the library in the build dir
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<Begasus[m]>
Aug 30, 2024 postgresql11
<OscarL>
30 aug 2024...
<OscarL>
beta 4 still, no?
<Begasus[m]>
Sep 1, 2024 for qgis
<Begasus[m]>
yeah, probably one of those done before beta5 was released then
<Begasus[m]>
bah, keep forgetting -G ....
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<Begasus[m]>
:( Fetching package for devel:libldap_2.4 ...
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<Begasus[m]>
and then .... runConfigure: Must specify optimization flags when overriding CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS.
<OscarL>
(if newly build 11 breaks qgis now... then you might need to call the "big guns" devs for help to figure out where the issue might be.)
<Begasus[m]>
I'm first checking inside the source for the build library)
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* OscarL
finds out that the "symbols visibility" change he was remembering was related to just Haiku's libshared.so, and even from beta4, so totally unrelated to this libqp.so issue.
<Begasus[m]>
31: 0000000000023040 97 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 11 pg_tolower
<Begasus[m]>
228: 0000000000023040 97 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT 11 pg_tolower
<Begasus[m]>
so the function is still fine with new compilation
<Begasus[m]>
qgis also fine with the newly compiled postgresql11
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<Begasus[m]>
only 2 hits (files) in postgresql11 for pg_tolower
<Begasus[m]>
13 files in postgresql12
<Begasus[m]>
the 2 files from 11 are the same in 12
<Begasus[m]>
OscarL: I'm not going to tackle postgresql12 on this, if so ... I would rather put my energy in looking into newer versions for it and check there
<Begasus[m]>
now checking latest qgis
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<OscarL>
alright, at least it narrows it down to only a thing with pg12 then. (and thus can resort to put a == 11 on that libpq requirement, I guess)
<Begasus[m]>
already did >= 11.1 for it
<Begasus[m]>
but maybe == is better?
<OscarL>
well, we "know" it breaks with 12, so == 11 sounds better, albeit in practise might not matter, given how pkgman/packagekit handles those?
<OscarL>
(as in... it will attempt to download the lowest that matches the constraing, thus will always attemp to download 11 if available on repos, AFAIK)
<OscarL>
* when using ">=", I mean.
<Begasus[m]>
better safe the rebuild? ;)
<OscarL>
if this was python... we could use: ">=11,!=12" (assuming newer pg work too) :-D
<Begasus[m]>
heh
<Begasus[m]>
don't make it harder then it already is :P
<fancy2209[m]>
Now I'm just confused where it actually calls
<fancy2209[m]>
I'm trying to understand what's happening to trace where it goes wrong
<fancy2209[m]>
But i never find it being called
<fancy2209[m]>
_user_set_memory_protection
<fancy2209[m]>
Wait why is vm_lookup_page needed if we have the physicalAdress and page address where this panic happens?
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<fancy2209[m]>
I'm just very confused on what's going wrong for allocate_kernel_args() to be failing on PowerPC
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<Begasus[m]>
nice, now geos has wrong includeDir in the cmake file ...
<fancy2209[m]>
I also can't find where _kern_create_area is
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<fancy2209[m]>
@ilzu Do you remember if y'all had traced down where the Kernel was failing when you and Yn0ga were working in it?
<fancy2209[m]>
Having a lot of trouble understanding where the issue is actually is
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<ilzu[m]>
fancy2209: It panicked in arch_vm_translation_map_init_post_area function.
<Begasus[m]>
giving up on qgis-3.42.3 for now, still issues with current and new geos paths ...
<scanty>
good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night.
<Begasus[m]>
howdy scanty :)
<scanty>
hi there Begasus[m], how's it going?
<fancy2209[m]>
<ilzu[m]> "fancy2209: It panicked in..." <- hug
<fancy2209[m]>
* huh
<fancy2209[m]>
I don't get that far
<fancy2209[m]>
I tried applying Y0nga's patches at the at the time latest commit and I only got to kernel args allocation
<fancy2209[m]>
Wait I do
<fancy2209[m]>
I am actually getting further than that I guess?
<Begasus[m]>
OscarL got me busy today scanty ;)
<scanty>
that's good. i wanted to get in touch with him actually, since i expanded on his keywords.asm for pe.
<scanty>
1411 instructions
<scanty>
plus all nasm keywords i could find
<scanty>
a lot of instructions are SIMD
<scanty>
there's about a million vector instructions.
<fancy2209[m]>
fancy2209[m]: Yeah, I get further than that somehow, page_table was allocated successfully before the panic I'm getting
<fancy2209[m]>
I guess time passing did good for it to go 2 functions further
<Begasus[m]>
eeps, that should keep him busy also scanty :P
<scanty>
well, i have to push my changes, i thought he could help me with that.
<scanty>
i did it over the span of two weeks, adding instructions here and there, and i finally got to (hopefully) the end
<Begasus[m]>
he left about an hour ago
<scanty>
yeah, i noticed. he'll be back ;^)
<Begasus[m]>
but knowing OscarL you never know when or what time he'll be online :)
<scanty>
yeah, he's funny like that. i wish he could get some proper internet.
<Begasus[m]>
yeah, second that
<scanty>
maybe we could make a fund for him... i'd be willing to donate $20 a month if it helps.
<Begasus[m]>
not in the posision to make promises there atm :/
<scanty>
gotcha.
<Begasus[m]>
facing some costs around the house
<scanty>
ah
<Begasus[m]>
not really looking out for that, but has to be done
<scanty>
well, of course you need to take care of those things yourself.
<fancy2209[m]>
Hmm it's the 3rd kernel arg that fails to allocate
<fancy2209[m]>
This is definitely on the Open firmware MMU
<fancy2209[m]>
Did the Sparc port ever get to userland with Open firmware?
<fancy2209[m]>
* Hmm it's the 3rd kernel arg that fails to allocate
<fancy2209[m]>
This is Seemingly on the Open firmware MMU
<ilzu[m]>
fancy2209: Great to hear you're making progress on PPC. I have to try it again, but unfortunately I've had way too little time to play with Haiku recently.
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<bjorkintosh>
are there any PPC systems still in production?
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<fancy2209[m]>
<bjorkintosh> "are there any PPC systems..." <- Yep!
<fancy2209[m]>
Mostly servers though
<fancy2209[m]>
There is an Power laptop being worked on though
<fancy2209[m]>
IBM actually still makes new POWER chips
<waddlesplash>
kallisti5[m]: not mmlr's fault, it's the broken mv command in RemoteBuilderSSH again. I manually patched that but every time the container is rebuilt it gets lost. It's fixed in the new HaikuPorter S3 version but of course you have not deployed that yet
<fancy2209[m]>
<bjorkintosh> "fancy2209: this one? https://www..." <- Yeah
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<kallisti5[m]>
<waddlesplash> "kallisti5: not mmlr's fault, it..." <- Oh, lame. We can patch the old version and do a special release for it.
<Begasus[m]>
noting fancy, but message for netifaces is gone now :)
<Begasus[m]>
thanks waddlesplash / kallisti5 buildmaster up and running again :)
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<Anarchos>
hello
<Anarchos>
how to delete temporary files of Webpositive and falkon ?
* phschafft
hands Anarchos a /very/ strong magnet.
* |cos|
noticed lz4_devel
<|cos|>
…does not contain its cmake file when packaged in HaikuPorts
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* |cos|
however lacks the full understanding of whether it should. It feels like it i
<Anarchos>
phschafft i can find a temp folder for web+ ?
<|cos|>
what's with my enter key today‽
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<phschafft>
Anarchos: just did a stupid comment. sorry.
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<pol>
why the message for netifaces is gone now?
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<pol>
I don't know if WebPositive even store cache at all? Everything is in RAM only, there are some settings in /boot/home/config/settings/WebPositive
<pol>
For Falkon there are /boot/home/config/cache/falkon & /boot/home/config/settings/falkon
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<fancy2209[m]>
Oh what the hell
<fancy2209[m]>
of course it's failing
<fancy2209[m]>
vm_lookup_page(4503599626847650)
<fancy2209[m]>
that's what it did
<fancy2209[m]>
it is also very suspicious the address is showing as 64 bit
<Skipp_OSX>
PPC 400 was not used in any Macs, it was used only in embedded processors. PowerPC 440EP system-on-a-chip looks to be the one.
<fancy2209[m]>
yeah that didn't help
<fancy2209[m]>
it's so weird though
<fancy2209[m]>
it is doign the right math
<Habbie>
i see you also noticed that NXP has interesting PPC PDFs?
<fancy2209[m]>
yep
<Habbie>
they keep coming up first in searches i do
<Habbie>
which reminds me, i think i might have some nxp powerpc around here
<Habbie>
but without video hardware, so no fun for haiku
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<Habbie>
i do have some nxp arm with video hardware...
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<fancy2209[m]>
i think the non Apple PowerPC Machine support isn't working?
<fancy2209[m]>
i'm not sure
<JesusGod-Pope666>
This new laptop don't have backward compability on my USBs boots. Sucks
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<Habbie>
fancy2209[m], given how uncharted your territory is, nothing would surprise me
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<fancy2209[m]>
i just wish i could understand what the problem was
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<Hanicef[m]>
in haikuports, is it fine if i use the same recipe if i forked the project after the original developer abandoned it, or should i make a new recipe?
<HaikuUser>
stupid question but is there anything about radeongfx nowadays? i remember hearing about it so i wonder if you can still install and use it, using a radeon r7 360 here btw
<Skipp_OSX>
the math adds up it goes to 0x100000000
<Skipp_OSX>
which is 1 past the 32-bit boundary
<Skipp_OSX>
INT32_MAX + 1
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<fancy2209[m]>
<Skipp_OSX> "the math adds up it goes to 0x10..." <- wdym?
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<Hanicef[m]>
nope, old one didn't have one either :/
<Habbie>
alright
<Habbie>
sounds like an improvement you could maybe make :)
<Hanicef[m]>
good point, start tagging stable commits sounds like a sane improvement
<Habbie>
also, while upstream appears dead, i've found that they are sometimes willing to merge a PR updating the README to update to a fork
<Hanicef[m]>
this time i doubt it, since the original author's account has had no activity for over a year on github
<Habbie>
or they had nothing to respond to
<Habbie>
it's free to try
<Habbie>
and if they do nothing - your link is sitting there very visible in PRs
<Hanicef[m]>
yeah, let me try forking and making a pr
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<Hanicef[m]>
done
<Habbie>
oh
<Habbie>
you sent a patch
<Habbie>
i meant a PR for the README pointing to your fork :)
<Habbie>
that said, you can do both!
<Hanicef[m]>
oh lol
<Habbie>
just do both
<Habbie>
this is nice
<Hanicef[m]>
seperate pr or same?
<Habbie>
separate
<Habbie>
if upstream merges #1, hooray, project maybe not dead, just dormant
<Habbie>
if upstream merges #2, now it's yours
<Habbie>
if they merge both, good
<Habbie>
if they just sit there idle, now there's two things that show people that your fork was warranted
<Habbie>
there is very little to lose here
<Hanicef[m]>
done
<Hanicef[m]>
let me update the first pr to mention the other one, too
<Habbie>
perfect
<Habbie>
in fact i think "here is a patch, or freedom, you choose" is great
<Hanicef[m]>
btw, does webpositive use translators? last time i tested, jxl files didn't work on that program specifically, but all other programs that i tested worked fine
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<Hanicef[m]>
man, i need to sleep
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<fancy2209[m]>
I love that haiku has a PC on fire check
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<gordonjcp>
fancy2209[m]: I plan on writing a GD92 daemon for it
<gordonjcp>
fancy2209[m]: so that if it detects the PC is on fire it can automagically send a mobilise message to a fire station for you
<fancy2209[m]>
<gordonjcp> "fancy2209: so that if it detects..." <- nice
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<gordonjcp>
in Today's Relentless Stream of Bullshit, I have completed a change request
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<gordonjcp>
I needed to create a Change Request with a full description of the work and all its risks, create an "Implementation Workbook" for it, carry out the work, fill out an automatically generated "Project Implementation Review", fill out a "Project Closure Review", and then finally a "Post Project Review"
<gordonjcp>
the actual "project" was... to switch off a piece of PABX equipment that got disconnected from all phones and phone lines four months ago and as such has just been a washing machine-sized space heater
<gordonjcp>
... this is why I never get time to hack on Haiku these days
<Habbie>
i hope you get paid
<phschafft>
mau.
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