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<OscarL> First time actually using ccache... just a quick test in ideal conditions to it... ran two consecutive: "jam clean && time jam -j2". First run: real 7m41.410s. Second run: 0m50.142s. Nice.
<OscarL> (for the Pe repo)
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<Begasus[m]> g'morning peeps
<OscarL> good morning Begasus[m], and good night Begasus[m] :-)
* OscarL goes to bed, after getting pretty annoyed while trying to run Python 3.13.5 test suite on the netbook.
<OscarL> have a great day!
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<Begasus[m]> bugger tl
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/81c31426bef7...15755e486879
<nekobot> • Begasus (15755e48): libpng16, bump to 1.6.48 (#12486)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/15755e486879...cb7b2ce52ca6
<nekobot> • Begasus (cb7b2ce5): llvm20, bump to version 20.1.7 (#12498)
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<Begasus[m]> bbl
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<Begasus[m]> re
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<Begasus[m]> buildmasters lost again :(
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<OscarL> C'mon Begasus[m]! Stop breaking the builders!
<erysdren> lol
<Begasus[m]> a nice day to you too OscarL :P
<Begasus[m]> k, now I'm missing argparse :P error: could not find git for clone of libargparse-populate
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<kallisti5[m]> realizing that if any buildmaster job fails, the whole buildrun fails
<kallisti5[m]> ... which means if you need to build "everything" , every broken recipe will stop progress cold
<Begasus[m]> recipe broken kallisti5 ?
<kallisti5[m]> yup. non-specific errors. with 5000+ ports, some recipe will always fail before being done
<kallisti5[m]> which means you have to fix the issue, then kick off the 1 hours + dependency resolution process. We don't see issues with this on a daily basis since we normally just do delta builds of single packagesd.
<Begasus[m]> is this the case for riscv64 builds?
<kallisti5[m]> yeah. failed dd, failed sftp, etc
<Begasus[m]> jikes
<kallisti5[m]> network drivers are early on riscv64
<kallisti5[m]> yeah... it's looking painful. I've only gotten a handful of packages built... i wish buildmaster would "keep going" to get as much built as it could (which I think was the intended design)... it just doesn't do that
<kallisti5[m]> brb.
<Begasus[m]> k, no luck on cpuinfo :P
<Begasus[m]> hard one to tackle I guess kallisti5
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<Begasus[m]> at least something worked :) -- Found SvtAv1Enc, version 3.0.2
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/cb7b2ce52ca6...1e5e055135b8
<nekobot> • OscarL (1e5e0551): unknown_horizons, fife, fifechan: drop recipes. (#12495)…
<Begasus[m]> K, now I can blame OscarL :P
<Begasus[m]> still no sign of life :(
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<WoC-> Haiku shredder 1 hrev58907 Jun 14 2025 06:15:17 x86_64 x86_64 Haiku
<WoC-> gl works pretty good in vm...
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/1e5e055135b8...9689aa7eca8d
<nekobot> • Hanicef (9689aa7e): jxltranslator: change in upstream (#12465)…
<Begasus[m]> thanks there Hanicef !
<Hanicef[m]> np
<Begasus[m]> atleast something that works instead of something that was broken :)
<Hanicef[m]> also, sorry for being absent last week, west pride has kept me busy but it's over now
<Begasus[m]> np Hanicef I gather upstream didn't comment yet also?
<Begasus[m]> oh lol
<Begasus[m]> just thinking about that, in the midst of bumping libavif :P
<Hanicef[m]> nope, nothing it seems
<Begasus[m]> but it's a minor bump, so shouldn't be a problem
* OscarL was about to merge jxltranslator tomorrow, after 2 weeks of previous upstream not having signs of activity. One less day... close enough :-)
<OscarL> (was about to merge that "drop fife related things" after giving it a week too, but I guess it was up long enough too)
<Begasus[m]> wanted to see if buildmasters got a kick to launch :)
<Begasus[m]> doesn't look like it :(
<OscarL> in any case... congrats on the merge Hanicef[m] :-)
<Hanicef[m]> thank <3
<Begasus[m]> hoped llvm20 would be well on it's way :(
<scanty> good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night :-)
<Begasus[m]> 'lo scanty ! :)
<scanty> hi there Begasus[m], how are you today?
* OscarL waves from the south.
* scanty waves back ;-)
<Begasus[m]> about yesterday, went out with the wife for our 40th wedding annyversary(*) :)
<scanty> oh wow, how nice!
<scanty> just had my brother's 6 year aniversary.
<OscarL> Congrats Begasus[m]!
<erysdren> congratulations!
<Begasus[m]> thanks :)
<Begasus[m]> your brother is only 6 year scanty ?
<OscarL> :-P
<scanty> haha no, the anniversary was!
<Begasus[m]> heh
<scanty> it's conveniently on his birthday, as well, so i can never forget it.
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* OscarL has forgotten his own birthday about 3 or 4 times... once for a couple of months before realizing it :-)
<Begasus[m]> latest svt_av1 doesn't provide the decoder library anymore
<Begasus[m]> eeps OscarL :P
<scanty> that's really nice, though, Begasus[m]... i'm still looking for the right one, and it's hard.
<erysdren> it is indeed
<Begasus[m]> I guess in our time it was easier, we went out, these days every one is on the net
<erysdren> i met my wife on Twitter. 5 years ago
<Begasus[m]> like that :)
<Begasus[m]> nice though erysdren
<erysdren> :D
<Begasus[m]> ok, should I enable svt_av1 for libavif? guess I can push the latest one and leave it disabled for now there
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9689aa7eca8d...ebc6a1b80969
<nekobot> • Begasus (ebc6a1b8): libraw23, add version 0.21.4 (#12494)
<Begasus[m]> k, I'm tempted to close the PR's for harfbuzz now that a work-around for GTK4 is working
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<WoC> nice to see that the gpu is used in the vm, even though it's not native support (usupported on bare metal)
<erysdren> huh, it is used in the VM? i thought that wasnt supported either
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* phschafft offers everyone each a cookie.
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<Begasus[m]> comfort cookie phschafft ?
<Begasus[m]> comphort(?)
<Begasus[m]> :)
<scanty> me want cookie!
<scanty> </cookiemonster>
<Begasus[m]> one of my favorites there was: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Chef :)
<scanty> yes!
<scanty> me too :-)
<Begasus[m]> the famoues meatballs :D
<scanty> mmm
<scanty> that would really hit the spot right now.
<Begasus[m]> heh
<Begasus[m]> just had a few, with some tomato sauce and fries (Belgian fries) :P
<WoC> with the right settinmgs and drivers, yes... <erysdren> huh, it is used in the VM? i thought that wasnt supported either
<WoC> it shows on the gpu load
<WoC> although i have not found a OpenGL benchmark for Haiku yet
<phschafft> Begasus[m]: had hard-ish reset of my machine before. for reasons of user error...
<phschafft> so maybe.
<phschafft> Begasus[m]: lookup popcorn by the swedish chef.
<Begasus[m]> will do in a bit phschafft , rounding up builds for KF6 6.15.0 :)
* phschafft nods.
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* WoC HexChat 2.16.2 Linux 6.16.0-rc1-1-mainline [x86_64/2.78GHz/SMP]
<WoC> 6,16 works pretty ok, so far ;)
<scanty> is there any documentation on building gtk apps that need X?
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<scanty> or Wayland, rather, i suppose?
<Begasus[m]> define X?
<scanty> X11
<Begasus[m]> there is X11 library, but that alone probably won't get you far
<Begasus[m]> xlibe (work from waddlesplash ) contains libX11
<scanty> okay, and what about gtk?
<Begasus[m]> GTK3 should be fairly good
<Begasus[m]> plenty of packages for that
<scanty> beta5, or nightly?
<Begasus[m]> both, seeing all packages are build on beta5 buildmasters :)
<Begasus[m]> well, can't tell if something is broken on nightly there
<scanty> ah
<Begasus[m]> mostly run beta5, and try to keep away from gtk apps (where possible) :)
<scanty> well, it is GNU Backgammon,
<scanty> the only app I am missing.
<Begasus[m]> ah
<Begasus[m]> cli is already in the depot
<scanty> yeah, i know....
<Begasus[m]> iirc there was an issue trying to build it for gtk, can't remember what it was though :P
<scanty> i want to build the graphical version
<scanty> my hands are tied right now by glib
<Begasus[m]> too old?
<Begasus[m]> ps, glib* not you ;)
<scanty> yeah, one in the depot is 2.78, gnubg needs at least 2.80
<Begasus[m]> didn't manage to update glib so far, but tried a few times already
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<Begasus[m]> # broken patchset, too many changes?
<Begasus[m]> comment in the one for glib2-2.85.0 :)
<scanty> so, 2.85.0 is broken?
<scanty> i'm confused.
<scanty> sorry
<Begasus[m]> my attempt at it is broken :)
<Begasus[m]> current one in the depot is still 2.78.0
<scanty> oh.
<scanty> i'm working with 2.96, but i have only looked briefly at the build process.
<scanty> it can't recognise haiku, so it fails
<scanty> so i'm thinking maybe i could bang it into the build script.
<Begasus[m]> glib2-2.96.0?
<Begasus[m]> jikes, I'm falling behind then :)
<scanty> tree just says 2.9.6
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<Begasus[m]> https://repology.org/project/glib/versions says 2.85.0 is the latest :)
<scanty> hmm.
<OscarL> WoC: your VM might be using the GPU on the host side of things, Haiku is not using it for rendering 3D content with any of the currently available drivers for it, AFAIK.
<scanty> where on earth did i get 2.9.6 from....
<Begasus[m]> no idea, you are sure you're not building an old version scanty ?
<scanty> ok i'm officially scared of building this.
<scanty> it need meson
<Begasus[m]> OscarL: how was this thing again for "git am abort"?
<scanty> and python i think
<Begasus[m]> OscarL: nvm :)
<OscarL> Begasus[m]: "git am --abort" should cancel (and leave the tree as it was before you tried to apply the patchset with "am")
<OscarL> for other things... "git reset ORIGIN" (if working on an HP work-dir).
* phschafft just extracted the default system colours and added them as a palette to his new module.
<erysdren> haiku's system colours are very pleasing
<Begasus[m]> not you got me sidetracked again scanty :)
<Begasus[m]> right OscarL
<scanty> Begasus[m]: :-)
<phschafft> erysdren: hm...
<phschafft> erysdren: I mean, clearly that could be worse. like those 'fun' colour themes microsoft used for their DOS products ;)
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<OscarL> bbl, maybe.
* OscarL waves
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<Begasus[m]> cu!
<Begasus[m]> k, glib2 patchset mostly recreated, still error on build
<WoC> OpenGL magic ? <OscarL> WoC: your VM might be using the GPU on the host side of things, Haiku is not using it for rendering 3D content with any of the currently available drivers for it, AFAIK.
<phschafft> let's all just write pink on yellow!
<phschafft> with that, time for dinner!
<WoC> white on white ;)
<WoC> ...Just a thought...
<phschafft> that is for documentation only!
<WoC> heh
<WoC> The whitepapaer ;)
<WoC> to hide the typos
<Begasus[m]> enjoy phschafft :)
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<WoC> ...indeed...
<WoC> But it would be nice with a port of glmark2 . imho
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<Begasus[m]> k, glib2 over my head :P
<Begasus[m]> WoC pathes welcome?
<Begasus[m]> systemd, probably not going to happen for glmark2
<Begasus[m]> good one 'popcorn" phschafft :)
<phschafft> :))
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<Begasus[m]> closing down here
<Begasus[m]> cu peeps!
<erysdren> cya Begasus
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