* phschafft
goes on with his duties and checks the cookie bowl. Making sure that he passes erysdren and Begasus[m] to offer both of them a fine cookie.
<erysdren>
tyty :3
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<phschafft>
:)
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<Habbie>
something's off in the way AI generated things are off
<swiftbanana[m]>
Is this AI generated?
<scanty>
it shouldn't be blurry
<scanty>
the whole window is blurry.
<scanty>
1sec
<Habbie>
like a jpeg, or something rendered just slightly resized
<scanty>
hrm, it looks good in Web+ now
<scanty>
ah, i see... it doesn't look good if the browser window is too small
<scanty>
anyway, it's supposed to be input setup for my NES emulator.
<Habbie>
that i understood :)
<swiftbanana[m]>
I think it look nice
<scanty>
thanks.
<swiftbanana[m]>
Maybe, but that may be up to debate, delimiting the textboxes to make it clearer for the user that there is something there that they can change?
<swiftbanana[m]>
With a white background for example
<scanty>
i can make the text rectangles any colour
<scanty>
so it would be possible to do in white
<scanty>
ok, be back laters.
<nephele>
mail agent user phschafft?
<phschafft>
media access unit
<nephele>
I don't like smartphones, but they are needed for comms nowadays. so what should I use? :(
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<BlueSky76>
Since the latest update I get an "OpenSSL mismatch. Built against 300000e0, you have 3050003f" error. The same error occurs on nightly and R1beta5. Both of my systems are x86_64, I didn't test on 32 bit systems. Does anyone experience the same?
<Habbie>
what exactly do you mean by "the latest update" ?
<diver1>
OpenSS was updated earlier today
* phschafft
wonders about which media-subtypes are generally speaking most used.
<BlueSky76>
Sorry forgot to add that this happens when using ssh, either to connect to a remote system or when using ssh with git
<Habbie>
sounds like an abi-incompatible bump was handled badly
<BlueSky76>
diver: Alright, maybe ssh needs to be updated or at least rebuilt as well?
<BlueSky76>
habbie: Yeah, it looks like it
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<Goggen>
Hi. I run Haiku on thinkpad without touchpad-support, would like to use bluetooth mouse. Any work in progress for supporting it?
<BlueSky76>
habbie: Sorry, I had overlooked your first question. By latest update I mean that the systems were updated with Software Updater today (about 2 hours ago)
<Habbie>
BlueSky76, ok, understood
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<OscarL>
BlueSky76: will you report the issue over HaikuPorts, or want me to do it on your behalf?
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<BlueSky76>
OscarL: I've just created an issue (#12950) at Haikuports about it. Thanks for offering to help
<OscarL>
np :-)
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<Anarchos>
hello
<ch1ptype>
haiku is awesome :D
<Anarchos>
ch1ptype indeed :)
<ch1ptype>
i kinda wanna use it as my daily driver lol
<Anarchos>
Is there a way to let Haiku (running in qemu) access a BeFS parttition residing on a host HDD ?
<bjorkintosh>
ch1ptype: then use it. 'some assembly required'
<Anarchos>
ch1ptype i use it as daily driver for more than 15y
<ch1ptype>
damn nice
<ch1ptype>
i use this computer for gaming tho so i cant lol
<Anarchos>
ch1ptype i dual boot Haiku/Win7
<ch1ptype>
fair fair
<bjorkintosh>
ch1ptype: run it in a VM then.
<ch1ptype>
also a good point
<phschafft>
Anarchos: if the volume is not in use yet just attach the device via qemu.
<Habbie>
^ was going to type this but not as good as phschafft typed it
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<Anarchos>
phschafft ok. I tried to use virt-manager, but couldn'ty find a way to configure it
<bjorkintosh>
Anarchos: I abandoned all of that for proxmox
<gordonjcp>
Anarchos: to run Haiku?
<bjorkintosh>
it saved me headaches.
<phschafft>
Habbie: thanks for the honey.
<phschafft>
Anarchos: if you are in the info tab you can use the add hardware button and then select storage.
<gordonjcp>
Anarchos: would you like an xml file for it?
<phschafft>
in the dialog is an option to select what to attach.
<Anarchos>
phschafft ok. I tried to use virt-manager, but couldn'ty find a way to configure it. I used 'add a filesystem'
<phschafft>
Anarchos: you need 'Storage' not 'Filesystem'.
<phschafft>
as you want to forward the volume. not stuff that is stored on it.
<Anarchos>
phschafft i will do that. Hope it will not erase the storage :)
<Anarchos>
let me reboot then
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<phschafft>
if it is in use by the host already you want 'Filesystem' to avoid the conflict. but if it is not in use and you just want to access it 'Storage' will just forward the volume into the VM.
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<Anarchos>
phschafft it worked, i am copying a whole 50Gb physical partition to a qcow2 image from within haiku (running in qemu on ubuntu) \o/
<phschafft>
:)
<phschafft>
I'm just not sure why you rebooted.
<Habbie>
nice!
<phschafft>
Is there a problem with Haiku with adding disks at runtime?
<Anarchos>
phschafft to change the configuration of the vm, to add the bfs hard drive
<Habbie>
Anarchos, virt-manager?
<Anarchos>
i didn't know you can change a configuratuion of a running vm...
<Anarchos>
Habbie yes
<phschafft>
storage devices can be changed at runtime.
<Habbie>
yeah virt-manager sucks for runtime changes
<phschafft>
last time it could not 'just take the new size' but required the new size to be entered. and don't dare to enter a wrong number!
<Anarchos>
if it feels too sluggish, i can still install a bare metal haiku, i have some spare hdd storage
<Habbie>
this is qemu with kvm?
<Anarchos>
Habbie not sure, i am not versed into emulation arcanes !
<Anarchos>
Habbie it is qemu on ubuntu
<gordonjcp>
Anarchos: you will likely want kvm then
<Habbie>
ok. probably kvm
<gordonjcp>
it works well
<phschafft>
Anarchos: in the info tab the overview one.
<phschafft>
Hypervisor: KVM
<phschafft>
?
<Anarchos>
phschafft yes it says 'KVM'
<gordonjcp>
Anarchos: were you around for all the hilarity around someone from #blender editing a model in Haiku over VNC on my Big Server?
<Anarchos>
gordonjcp must have read something along those lines, but could not grasp a word :)
<gordonjcp>
Anarchos: heh
<phschafft>
Anarchos: then it's KVM :)
<Anarchos>
phschafft and how can i change the screen size ?
<gordonjcp>
Anarchos: absolute bare minimum, something like "qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 1024 -hda /path/to/haiku-image" ought to get *something* working
<phschafft>
Anarchos: change it inside the VM to whatever you like. in the window: View > Resize to VM
<Anarchos>
phschafft nice
<gordonjcp>
Anarchos: if you change screen size in Haiku preferences, qemu should follow
<Anarchos>
phschafft 1920*1080 is too thin for my old eyes :)
<phschafft>
you can naturally change the size of the window as well, but generally view the menu is best.
<phschafft>
there is also an option for scaling.
<gordonjcp>
Anarchos: super important - CTRL-ALT-G will give you your mouse pointer back
<OscarL>
Anarchos: you could also increase the font size in Appeance. I'm already at the point of having to mess around that for different screen resolution/sizes/distances.
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<Anarchos>
re
* Anarchos
advises you *not* to play too much with screen resolution in a VM ...
<gordonjcp>
Anarchos: it will eventually trip over its own feet
<bjorkintosh>
phschafft: have you ever used proxmox?
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<phschafft>
no.
<bjorkintosh>
it's the <insert easiest to install and use linux distro> of VMs.
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<phschafft>
likely I had no usecase for it yet.
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<bjorkintosh>
phschafft: easy VM installation.
<phschafft>
not a step I had problems with so far.
<phschafft>
also not something I'm doing too often.
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<bjorkintosh>
fair enough.
<bjorkintosh>
I found the manual approach needlessly tedious and unproductive.
<bjorkintosh>
I blame my skill level in these matters.
<phschafft>
I mean I don't have much fluctuation when it comes to my VMs.
<phschafft>
plus they are just the default install or something that would require to fiddle with anyway.
<bjorkintosh>
heheh.
<bjorkintosh>
I remember when I got so used to recompiling the freebsd kernel to get different peripherals to work, a long time ago.
<phschafft>
I never compiled a kernel before.
<bjorkintosh>
then I started using ubuntu. never touched the kernel for anything. it was a little confusing at first. but I got properly spoiled.
<bjorkintosh>
phschafft: it was necessary for freebsd.
<phschafft>
that is beside the ones for OS that I'm writing naturally.
<bjorkintosh>
essential, if you wanted anything to work.
<phschafft>
I *very* strongly think that an operating system that requires a user to ever run a compiler is unfit for pratical use.
<bjorkintosh>
opinions differ.
<bjorkintosh>
it worked very well for me.
<phschafft>
I mean it would be a borig world if opinions wouldn't differ.
<phschafft>
in my little corner of the world it however seems that, beside technical aspects behind this opinion, systems where a user runs a compiler tend to have very fanboy-ish communities.
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<phschafft>
so beside the technical aspects I must sadly say that contact with such systems often resulted in those being the loudest who I would like not to talk with. ;)
<bjorkintosh>
it wasn't like linux from scratch or gentoo or anything.
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<AlienSoldier>
waddlesplash i thin a miracle happened, i did not have a KDL after removing my SD card reader (i did an update yesterday on this computer, the fisrt in 1 about month)
<AlienSoldier>
*think
<bjorkintosh>
phschafft: do you often hear loud proclamations from the *BSD camp besides "bsd is *dying*"? they hardly make waves or noise.
<phschafft>
bjorkintosh: I used to hear a lot of 'why freebsd is the best of the best and only the smartest of the smartest developers'
<phschafft>
and whenever the discussion became technical and some random problem was pointed out I got a 'this is not how we do that' and 'it is better because freebsd is allowed to drink and drive'
<bjorkintosh>
hahahaha
<bjorkintosh>
I didn't encounter that.
<phschafft>
I'm very sure that this is a result of 'the more crazy the louder'. still at some point it's no longer worth pushing uphill if what you have already solves your problems.
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