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• OscarL (8c454ad3): ifaddr: drop Python 3.9 support.…
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<OscarL>
mmm, did our regular channel operators got fired? :-P (odd not seeing waddlesplash with an @ at front :-D)
<erysdren>
hmm?
<erysdren>
wdym
<erysdren>
also howdy OscarL
<OscarL>
hey erysdren. in the user list this client shows me... channel ops always appear with @ as "nick prefix".
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<OscarL>
last few days, waddlesplash appears without @, and today I only see one channel op, so... thought... that's kinda weird.
<erysdren>
hmmm
<erysdren>
odd
<OscarL>
k. down to 11 recipes/packages that need to drop Python 3.9 support. Took me quite a few hours, but things went smoother than I expected.
<OscarL>
(specially considering that I only locally tested builds for some random recipes... as the netbook has been thermally-throtling all day... hot day down here :-/)
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<zdykstra>
feelin' hot hot hot
<OscarL>
+36 C and we didn't hit spring down here... not nice. Also... nice you read you zdykstra :-)
<zdykstra>
36C is rough. Do you at least have wind?
<OscarL>
Sometimes... too much :-) (today, not enough, though!)
<OscarL>
Summer time with hot winds... feels like living inside an air fryer :-D
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<phschafft>
good morning.
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checks the cookie bowl. also adds a few chocolate cookies today.
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drops in a few honey cookies he baked friday
<phschafft>
uh! :))
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<nephele>
scanty: the OS can't distinquish between a memory bug that is irrelevant and one that is relevant, you could argue that a memory problem on quiting a window that only concerns internal window data is not relevant, but one dealing with data you want to save it (since the OS will clean up either way), so this will always show a crash dialog... so in that sense, yes it is something that should be fixed
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<swiftbanana[m]>
How does one uses haikuporter to build a x86 package on x86_gcc2?
<jmairboeck>
add the suffix _x86 to the package name argument
<jmairboeck>
e.g. haikuporter foo_x86
<swiftbanana[m]>
Hm
<swiftbanana[m]>
It says "Error netsurf_x86 not found in repository"
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<jmairboeck>
did you enable SECONDARY_TARGET_ARCHITECTURES="x86" in haikuports.conf?
<swiftbanana[m]>
Probably not
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<swiftbanana[m]>
That seems to have done the trick, thank you @jmairboeck
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<scanty>
anyone around? i was considering what an "expected" boot time for haiku. i timed the process from grub to desktop, and it took 56sec
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<scanty>
on a quad xeon 3.2 with 16GB RAM
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<B2IA>
(floodlight) I haven't timed it, but it always feel "fast""
<scanty>
maybe it takes some time to mount a few volumes at boot time.
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<OscarL>
darn thermal throttling, makes this N4020 feel like an Atom N450 :-(
<OscarL>
scanty: in my far-from scientific "testing"... seems boot up times are fast on clean/new installs, and seem to get progressively (but slowly) slower overtime, depending on:
<OscarL>
1) number of installed packages. 2) number of "states" under /system/packages/administrative/, 3) number of other volumes to be scanned at boot time.
<OscarL>
I had one install on HDD that became very slow too boot up for some reason (after a couple years of usage for HaikuPorts work). Even after "clean ups" seemed too slow.
<OscarL>
tried enabling timestamps on the syslog, to see if I could figure out where the time was being spent...
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<OscarL>
was unable to figure out things that time, other that seemed to be some 12s/20s "pauses" without any logging. Dunno... perhaps the HDD became overly fragmented?
<OscarL>
I remember there was at least one ticket about boot times on Trac, now I'm faling to find it :-/
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<scanty>
hm
<scanty>
i have no idea really.
<scanty>
i don't specifically recall boot times any faster in earlier times
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<OscarL>
nothing notable on syslog? I've seen some SATA/AHCI controllers take their sweet time, sometimes with scary looking messages about interfaces being reset, or similar.
<OscarL>
scanty: I guess you could try enabling timestamps for syslog (from ~/config/settings/kernel/driver/kernel file), "rm /var/log/syslog", and then reboot, then inspect the new syslog for anything odd?
<OscarL>
scanty: another thinggie... nightlies have more debug output (and I think less optimized?) than releases, so that might affect things a bit too.
<christech2>
afternoon
<OscarL>
mmm, seems using "site:https://dev.haiku-os.org/" on a google search doesn't works anymore? perhaps due to Anubis? (haven't used google in a long time so... maybe got broken before)
<OscarL>
hello there christech2.
<christech2>
got my Haiku machine back up at home
<christech2>
yay
<OscarL>
nice :-)
<christech2>
AMD Phenom II.. a bit old but still going
<OscarL>
Heh, my fastest machine is a Phenom II X4 925.
<OscarL>
(not using it much since a few months, since I had to change the motherboard for a crappier, but working, one)
<christech2>
I paid $50 USD for the motherboard, cpu and 16GB of ram from a coworker a few years ago
<christech2>
my other Haiku machine is a Xeon
<christech2>
circa 2014
<OscarL>
I also bought mine from a co-worker, but originally it had an Athlon II X2 245 (I bought it in mid 2012, the year I finally dropped win98 :-D... was using an Athlon T-Bird @900 till that point).
<christech2>
nice
<OscarL>
(I got the x4 Phenom for "cheap enough" in 2020, IIRC)
<OscarL>
mmm I think it was actually 2022, yeah... was already visiting this channel again.
<OscarL>
christech2: Haiku will run very nicely on the Phenom... only bad thing is the lack of a P-States driver, to avoid running it at its max freq/voltage all the time.
<christech2>
it does get hot in the garage when im running it
<christech2>
I'll check it out, thanks.
<OscarL>
I have been working on one for some Winbond SuperIO chips (due to my change of motherboard for the Phenom). Works OK at the moment, but haven't published yet.
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<christech2>
I've got an Asus motherboard
<christech2>
RoG Crosshair V Forumula
<christech2>
I'll test it out
<christech2>
bbl
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<OscarL>
that looks like an insane mobo. would be nice to have it maxed out with a Phenom II X6 1100T :-D
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