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<Begasus[m]> g'morning peeps
<janking> Good morning to you all :)
<Begasus[m]> g'morning janking :)
<janking> :)
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<HaikuUser> hi there
<nekobot> [haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5acb497396d2...0236d67b2c21
<nekobot> • threedeyes (0236d67b): nss: bump version
<nekobot> [haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0236d67b2c21...ac219c56502c
<nekobot> • threedeyes (ac219c56): iceweasel: bump version
<nekobot> [haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/ac219c56502c...16fe9cb3b62a
<nekobot> • threedeyes (16fe9cb3): iceweasel_bin: bump version
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<janking> Hi :)
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<erysdren> morning phschafft
<phschafft> morning erysdren.
<erysdren> how goes?
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<phschafft> oh, sleepy!
<erysdren> aye
<phschafft> and you?
<erysdren> doing alright here
<phschafft> :)
<phschafft> had a meeting (the type you don't like) early in the morning...
<phschafft> so a bit low on engery.
<phschafft> so happy to hear you are better.
<gordonjcp> afternoon
<phschafft> mau also gordonjcp.
<gordonjcp> phschafft: wie gehts?
* phschafft gets his cookies out an offers them to erysdren and gordonjcp.
<gordonjcp> oh thanks, that'll go nicely with my cup of tea
<phschafft> :))
<erysdren> :D
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<phschafft> hm.
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<B2IA> (AGMS) zdykstra1 Getting a PowerMac 210? Let me know if it works, I've got a PowerComputing PowerTower Pro 225 here, which I use for building BeOS apps for PowerPC, like BeShare.
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<christech> mornin
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<zdykstra> AGMS: nice. I have no idea the specs on mine, except that the seller is located 20 miles away from the old headquarters of PowerComputing in Texas.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Got mine used, at an in-town Macintosh service place.
<B2IA> (AGMS) The 210 suggests 210 Mhz for the CPU speed.
<zdykstra> could be a coincidence, but given the overall visual condition of it, I'm hoping that it's a well-loved machine from a former employee
<zdykstra> yeah, should be a 210mhz 604e
<christech> those were cool machines
<B2IA> (AGMS) I should take mine apart and remove the rechargable battery. Hope it hasn't damaged things, though it was working last year.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Has 2 very noisy SCSI drives. Very.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Noisey
<zdykstra> always wanted one as a teenager, but I had teenager money
<B2IA> (AGMS) Nope, noisy.
<zdykstra> I'm an adult now, with adult money, so YOLO
<B2IA> (AGMS) $300 for mine.
<christech> I remember my friend getting one for college
<zdykstra> yeah, spent $300 for mine as well
<christech> I had one in the early 2000s but sold it for rent money heh
<B2IA> (AGMS) Happy that it outputs VGA, not some Apple proprietary monitor thing.
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/16fe9cb3b62a...637c008d6d79
<nekobot> • Begasus (637c008d): texstudio, bump to 4.8.9 (#12937)
<zdykstra> the DA-15 plug on apples is basically VGA with the sense pins shuffled around
<zdykstra> you can get a $10 adapter that lets you plug a VGA screen in to it if needed
<B2IA> (AGMS) Though my new system doesn't have VGA on the monitor, only HDMI and DisplayPort. Oh well, it's been a few decades. And it's really cheap ($300 again, plus tax) for 4K and 32 inches.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Maybe I should dig up an old 19 inch ViewSonic for the PowerPC. But then I wouldn't have any desk space :-)
<zdykstra> still, nice to know that they run BeOS. I'm looking forward to pulling out my 5.0.3 CD and booting it
<B2IA> (AGMS) Plus the update patch for PPC and 5.0.3.
<zdykstra> I still have a 4.5 CD + floppy that I bought all of those years ago :)
<B2IA> (AGMS) Found it, BeOS5-Update3-Pro-PPC.zip
<zdykstra> nice. I'll have to snag that
<B2IA> (AGMS) It's on my BeShare if you can't find it elsewhere.
<zdykstra> I'll go for it there, assuming I can reasonably easily get BeShare on the machine after installing it
<B2IA> (AGMS) Anyway, I'm still trying to get x86 BeOS working on my new machine, an AMD Zen 5 system, which doesn't seem to have some secret Intel instruction so VirtualBox fails with a mystery error. But then Intel did help Be with writing BeOS drivers.
<B2IA> (AGMS) I'm keeping BeShare for PPC up to date too.
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<zdykstra> awesome
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<christech> that will be fun to install BeOS on the PPC
<christech> I ran it on my old Daystar Digital
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<Begasus[m]> libboost_system removed in latest release: https://github.com/boostorg/system/issues/132
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<Begasus[m]> hmm ... do we still need/use the two old (1.69.0/1.70.0) versions?
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev59047] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=db179db57b5f+%5Edc64aa7e6d82
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] db179db57b5f - kernel/events: Fix double-free in create_select_sync.
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<swiftbanana[m]> I think I have found a bug in either in Gobe Productive or Haiku but I’m not sure which one, what should I do?
<swiftbanana[m]> s/in//
<Habbie> tell us about it
<Habbie> gobe is from a dead company?
<swiftbanana[m]> Yep
<Habbie> ok
<Habbie> well then your options are more limited
<Habbie> still, tell us about the bug
<swiftbanana[m]> So if it’s a Gobe bug I don’t think we care
<swiftbanana[m]> But if it’s Haiku, well
<swiftbanana[m]> So, in the presentation app, there is a "Presentation" floating window, with a list of slides and layers
<swiftbanana[m]> It is not a "classic" window, it is a modal or something, the ones with the smaller borders that you cannot resize
<swiftbanana[m]> If you interact with this window, for example, by creating a new slide or layer, the window disappear
<Habbie> so this is on 32 bit haiku?
<swiftbanana[m]> Yes
<swiftbanana[m]> Both on nightly and beta
<Habbie> do you have any idea if the same problem happens on BeOS?
<swiftbanana[m]> I have a BeOS VM laying around but unfortunately I cannot seem to make it run ah ah
<swiftbanana[m]> I shall try again
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<swiftbanana[m]> Ok, it doesn’t happen on BeOS
<Habbie> ok, good data point
<Habbie> think you can make video of both cases?
<Habbie> and also, where would people get Gobe Productive?
<swiftbanana[m]> There is one ISO on archive.org but the installer ins broken on Haiku, and one .pkg on BeBytes, I can provide both if desired
<swiftbanana[m]> Actually I can even package the VM if you want
<swiftbanana[m]> (The BeOS one, or even give you a Haiku one I have laying around)
<Habbie> well, it would not be for -me-
<Habbie> i'm just trying to help you make a useful report
<swiftbanana[m]> Well, "you" is generic =p
<Habbie> ok yes :)
<Habbie> just making sure
<swiftbanana[m]> Ah, I disn’t answer, yes I believe it should be possible to make videos
<Habbie> good
<Habbie> then i think a haiku-os ticket makes sense here
<Habbie> and if not, then at least you have collected all info in one place, which is always a good start
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<swiftbanana[m]> I have made two videos, one on BeOS and the other in Haiku
<swiftbanana[m]> I’ll open a ticket, it seems to make sense
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