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<whitepaperkat> with lots of coffe
<janking> yes :)
<whitepaperkat> do you like v a p e r w a v e
<whitepaperkat> it might help you fall asleep
<whitepaperkat> heres my fav site to listen to that
<whitepaperkat> https://plaza.one/
<janking> it wahs cool
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<jakecubes[m]> hey
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<whitepaperkat> the matrix brige is now working yay
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<Begasus[m]> g'morning peeps
<zdykstra> Moaning!
<Begasus[m]> Hi zdykstra1, how is it there?
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<zdykstra> Cool breeze blowing in through and open window, my dog is asleep against my hip, snoring loudly
<zdykstra> Altogether a great night
<zdykstra> And you?
<janking> not sleep at all
<zdykstra> With that said it's 1am and I should sleep
<Begasus[m]> almost 8 am and up from 5 am :)
<Begasus[m]> so had my first share of coffee already :)
<Begasus[m]> k NeoChat back on par
<Begasus[m]> did a full-sync here yesterday, rebuild Qt 6.9.0 again, installed ...
<Begasus[m]> so getting back up on speed, need to bump local frameworks for KDE to 6.17.0 (or maybe wait, tomorrow 6.18.0-rc should be out)
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<janking> good morning :)
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<janking> back
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<Begasus[m]> g'morning janking
<janking> g`morning Begasus[m]
<janking> what are you working with to day?
<Begasus[m]> nothing specific
<janking> ok
<Begasus[m]> fiddling a bit with some ruby packages/installations :)
<janking> ok :)
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<nekobot> • Begasus (5c35ca6c): tellico, revbump for 32bit (#12898)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/90617371776e...5c35ca6cbb35
<nekobot> • Begasus (b8df2700): scribus, revbump for 32bit (libxml2) (#12899)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5c35ca6cbb35...b8df2700d6b4
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b8df2700d6b4...0d335de1298a
<nekobot> • Begasus (0d335de1): gimp, revbump for 32bit (libxml2) (#12900)
<Begasus[m]> latest GIMP still building :)
<Begasus[m]> dev release *
<phschafft> morning.
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0d335de1298a...97bca6fd9a5a
<nekobot> • Begasus (97bca6fd): exiv2, revbump, fix requirements for devel, disable old devel package (#12901)
<erysdren> morning phschafft
<Begasus[m]> 'lo phschafft and erysdren (@_oftc_erysdren:matrix.org) :)
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<phschafft> everyone good?
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/97bca6fd9a5a...c0c8b9ace88a
<nekobot> • Begasus (c0c8b9ac): exiv2, fix commandBinDir for 32bit (#12902)
<janking> yes sir
<Begasus[m]> yeah, back on par again for the basics :)
<Begasus[m]> one more to go for the broken report text (32bit)
<Begasus[m]> #19729: Mismatching CPU_ZERO, CPU_ISSET and CPU_SET in gnu/sched.h ... fixed :D
<Begasus[m]> Thanks korli!
<phschafft> :)
<phschafft> was thinking this morning about different ways to schedule things. both userland and kernel land and maybe things in between.
<phschafft> (such as kernel assisted in-application tasks queues)
<Begasus[m]> assisted in-application ... AI ? :P
<phschafft> em...
<whitepaperkat[m]> An IA assistant
<phschafft> ;)
<whitepaperkat[m]> Or something like the old desktop buddies
<Begasus[m]> interim assistant? ;)
<Begasus[m]> clipper! :P
<whitepaperkat[m]> Yeah
<phschafft> whitepaperkat[m]: pssst! don't tell them what I'm secretly working at!
<whitepaperkat[m]> All right I'll keep my mouth zipped
<whitepaperkat[m]> 🤐
<Begasus[m]> zstdped :)
<janking> thanks for the update : media-gfx/exiv2/exiv2-0.28.5.recipe
<whitepaperkat[m]> 😀
<phschafft> I was thinking about stuff like you have a task queue, which might also be used for any basic async operations (e.g. as supported by the programming language). and the queue is a shared object beteen the userland and the kernel with the userland owning it. but it can use the kernel to check what ight be blocking, or to spread processing to multiple threads.
<Begasus[m]> only a revbump there janking (needed to nuke the devel one for the 0.27 one)
<Begasus[m]> and fix some references for the 0.28 devel package
<janking> ok
<phschafft> e.g. the main loop of that queue could be kernel land and auto checks pre-conditions that are visible to the kernel and manages threads. while then handler code runs in userland.
<Begasus[m]> not easy it sounds phschafft
<phschafft> I'm not sure. I mean sure it requires some testing and stuff to make sure it works fine.
<phschafft> but if you e.g. just go for pre-conditions that are poll()-able (or similar technology) you already have that implemented anyway.
<Begasus[m]> I'll take your word for it :)
<phschafft> I feel like the bigger question is if it provies so much better performance that it's worth doing it.
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<Begasus[m]> benchmarks?
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c0c8b9ace88a...7bdbda230440
<nekobot> • Begasus (7bdbda23): inkscape, revbump for 32bit (libxml2) (#12903)
<Begasus[m]> k, that should be the last one for the reports
<phschafft> Begasus[m]: yes. but for something like that it's always nice to have an idea on what you expect before you spend time on it.
<phschafft> just because the first benchmark might be hours of work away.
<Begasus[m]> it starts with the groundwork phschafft ? :)
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<Begasus[m]> /packages/libsecret-0.21.7-1/.self/develop/headers/libsecret-1/libsecret/secret.h:18:10: fatal error: glib.h: No such file or directory
<Begasus[m]> woot!
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<Begasus[m]> fixed :)
<janking> i now you fixit :)
<Begasus[m]> :)
<Begasus[m]> mostly my own mistakes/errors :D
<janking> :)
<janking> restart
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<janking> back
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<janking> back :)
<phschafft> welcome back.
<janking> :)
<janking> thanks
<whitepaperkat[m]> Welcome back
<janking> thanks
<Begasus[m]> front
<janking> what is this?Blockbuffert
<Begasus[m]> no idea
<janking> ok
<Begasus[m]> where do you see it?
<janking> ActivityMonitor
<Begasus[m]> system localized? not seeing it
<janking> in apps
<janking> (/boot/system/apps)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev59031] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5b41bc0066ef+%5E01d48fcd27b9
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 5b41bc0066ef - HaikuDepot: Fix scrollbar position on row removal
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<andreaa> hi
<andreaa> me llaman el desaparecido => zaghi not me ... :D
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev59032] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=01f5b3146f25+%5E5b41bc0066ef
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 01f5b3146f25 - kernel/fs: Add some missing descriptor open_mode checks.
<andreaa> haiku 4 zaghi ... xD
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<phschafft> erysdren: what is your availability?
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<scantysnax> good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night :-)
<whitepaperkat[m]> I somewhat want to abbreviate that
<whitepaperkat[m]> But it might come out wrong
<whitepaperkat[m]> Good M A E N
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<whitepaperkat[m]> :D
<whitepaperkat[m]> XD
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<scantysnax> i don't do abbreviations ^_^
<scantysnax> heading home, be back later
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<whitepaperkat[m]> They always backfire
<whitepaperkat[m]> Anything about abbreviations is they could really mean anything
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<nekobot> [haikuwebkit] pulkomandy force-pushed 47 commits to branch haiku-webkit2: https://github.com/haiku/haikuwebkit/compare/98c198eeda07...3ab50f9b78e1
<nekobot> • pulkomandy (f411c29b): No more subsystem in logs
<nekobot> • pulkomandy (40429194): WebPageHaiku: fix after rebase
<nekobot> • pulkomandy (92edb9ad): CurrentProcessMemoryHaiku: fix implementation
<nekobot> [haikuwebkit] pulkomandy pushed 5 commits to branch haiku: https://github.com/haiku/haikuwebkit/compare/0f5e7e89ec84...2e704bfe20e9
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<HaikuUser> hi
<WoC> Aloha
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<HaikuUser> anyone online?
<erysdren> yea
<HaikuUser> hi
<erysdren> good evening/morning/etc
<erysdren> how are you enjoying haiku?
<HaikuUser> ı use in boxes emulator
<phschafft> mau erysdren.
<HaikuUser> ı cant download any program or upgrade
<erysdren> did you add a harddrive in the emulator?
<HaikuUser> yes basicly it start but not finish sometime freze sometimes give error but not bad at all
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<HaikuUser> which one is better ıceweasel or floorp
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<phschafft> hm.
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