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<erysdren> morning all
<erysdren> cool ideas OscarL! glad you liked my ramblings :D
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<Begasus[m]> g'morning peeps
<Begasus[m]> morning erysdren (@_oftc_erysdren:matrix.org)
<erysdren> hi
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<erysdren> welcome
<Begasus[m]> welcome?
<SuperRyn> hi
<erysdren> a HaikuUser joined :p
<erysdren> Begasus being on Matrix now means he cant see the joins and leaves
<Begasus[m]> ah, disabled those mentions :)
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<SuperRyn> apparently hCaptcha makes WebPositive comatose lol
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<SuperRyn> question: when I stack and tile windows, is there a way to save the tile/stack configuration or otherwise automatically re-make it? i think it would be good for returning to a good setup of applications
<erysdren> hmm, i'm not sure
<Begasus[m]> don't know if it's possible in nightly, but on beta5 stack&tile is gone on reboot
<Begasus[m]> so you need to redo them on the next boot
<SuperRyn> hm ok
<SuperRyn> how can I put an icon on a folder?
<Begasus[m]> open the folder with "FileTypes" and drop an icon in the icon field? (just tried, didn't work) :)
<SuperRyn> Apparently double-clicking the icon in FileTypes opens an application called "Icon-O-Matic". Maybe if I can find where the icons are stored I can open an icon from there and use it?
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<Begasus[m]> /system/data/icons
<Begasus[m]> mind you, folders inside /system are read-only, so it won't work there anyway afaik
<SuperRyn> Ok if you drop an svg file into the icon well in the filetype dialog, the folder will use it as an icon
<SuperRyn> managed to make my mail folder have a mail icon on my desktop that way just a second ago
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<Begasus[m]> waddlesplash there is no ticket for CLOSE_RANGE_CLOEXEC yet?
<Begasus[m]> looking at the added patch by cocobean for Qt6.9.2 PR for that
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<Begasus[m]> ah! KDE Ships Frameworks 6.18.0 ... time to look into that :P
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<Begasus[m]> bulk build started :)
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<Begasus[m]> done :) 136 packages in a bit over an hour, nnot bad :D
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<scanty> anyone around? (devs, maybe)?
<SuperRyn> im around
<erysdren> hi scanty
<scanty> hi.
<SuperRyn> currently trying to get Zig 0.15.1 to run on r1beta5
<scanty> wondering if I can show the arrow keys ina btextview.
<scanty> in a*
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<erysdren> not sure scanty, i'm not a hardcore haiku dev sadly
<scanty> no worries
<scanty> there must be some way to do it.
<scanty> brb
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<scanty> so, does anyone know how to print the (up, down, left, right) arrow keys into a TextView, or and View
<scanty> or any view*
<Habbie> i may be missing something, but those have unicode code points
<Habbie> don't those just work?
<scanty> there are constants, B_UP_ARROW, B_DOWN_ARROW, B_LEFT_ARROW, and B_RIGHT_ARROW, but i can only print them in a menu
<scanty> if i try to print them as chars, i get squares.
<scanty> anyone have any ideas?
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<PulkoMandy> These are not characters but raw keycodes. If you need to print representations you need to find the relevant unicode characters
<erysdren> yeah, i guess just find some unicode characters for up/down/left/right arrows.
<erysdren> and translate your keycodes
<scanty> ok, i'm confused now... where exactly do i start?
<erysdren> idk
<erysdren> if you're printing text, don't print the raw keycodes. replace them with the appropriate unicode characters in the string
<erysdren> and if the unicode character is longer than 1 byte in size, you'll have to deal with that.
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<phschafft> the GNOME character map tool has some 'Various Useful Representations' in the character details tab.
<phschafft> last time I had a look at the Haiku character map it was... a bit rudimentary.
<SuperRyn> is there a limit for the size of 1 allocation in r1beta5? im compiling zig and it keeps running into an 'OutOfMemory' error despite there being plenty of memory
<waddlesplash> the malloc on beta5 and previous releases can't handle allocations larger than about 1 or 2 GB
<waddlesplash> and a total heap size somewhere around that also
<waddlesplash> on the nightly builds the malloc was replaced and can handle arbitrary sizes up to RAM
<SuperRyn> can i upgrade the malloc without going nightly?
* phschafft wonders what task requires such allocations.
<SuperRyn> apparently bootstrapping the zig compiler requires such allocations
<phschafft> hm.
<SuperRyn> is the malloc in question inside userspace or in the kernel? could be a dumb question but i want to make sure
<phschafft> not speaking for Haiku here but very generally: that is not a dumb question as it's a dance they both perform together.
<phschafft> e.g. small object allocations might happen completly in userspace up to the point then more memory is needed and the kernel must be asked. while e.g. big allocations might be done via mmap() or similar.
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<SuperRyn> what im wondering is if i could potentially make a nightly container inside r1beta5, dunno if the infrastructure for that exists but it might be possible idk
<phschafft> and limits of 1, 2, 3, or 4GB sound very much like a change of the rhythm of that dance.
<SuperRyn> could maybe be used to fix the malloc issue without dooming my haiku install to crash every 20 minutes
<PulkoMandy> The malloc is in the c library so userspace, but overall we don't maintain a stable interfaoe at the syscall level, and so linux-style containers can't really be a thing on haiku
<scanty> man, GUI code can be a pain the ass sometimes....
<phschafft> scanty: ;)
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<waddlesplash> SuperRyn: syscalls ABI has changed since beta5 so no, you can't run a nightly chroot on beta5
<waddlesplash> upgrading to nightly is quite painless though
<waddlesplash> just change repos in pkgman from "r1beta5" to "master", and run "pkgman full-sync", and reboot
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<Anarchos> hello
<erysdren> hi Anarchos
<phschafft> :)
<SuperRyn> waddlesplash ik how to upgrade but when i did it on my laptop it started crashing frequently, which i don't want to happen with my pc
<waddlesplash> what were the crashes?
<waddlesplash> if you don't report them, they won't get fixed before the next release!
<SuperRyn> unfortunately my laptop had it's screen blanked each time so the kdl wasn't visible
<Anarchos> SuperRyn you can reboot and display the previous syslog
<SuperRyn> how do I do that?
<Anarchos> hit space at boot time to get into the boot loader menu
<erysdren> i thought when rebooting the previous syslog was stored somewhere anyway
<SuperRyn> btw i have to go in a few min, but i'll keep irc open so i can read it when i get back
<erysdren> like next to the active syslog
<Anarchos> erysdren there is teh syslog.old indeed
<erysdren> yeah
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<SuperRyn> I wonder if it's possible to cross-compile from nightly to r1beta5