<Begasus[m]>
but those are external packages, so we should be good there
<Begasus[m]>
Also checked with KMymoney, when installed in ~/config/packages the plugins installed in add-ons directory are not loaded?
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<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: I guess it somehow assumes it will be installed under /system? (hello btw :-D)
<OscarL>
does it has any patch related to find_directory() / find_path() ?
<OscarL>
do KDE programs have some general way of determining search paths? (if so, maybe the problem is not exclusive to kmoney)
<OscarL>
(just pondering out loud, while I wait for a Python 3.14.0rc1 build to finish)
<OscarL>
82 C... this netbook will definitively melt itself in summer time :-(
<OscarL>
have to keep an eye on it because, while the CPU properly throttles down due to temps (at ~82 C)... it seems it doesn't does the same for the GPU/Video decoding part... hit 90 C earlier today. yikes!
<Begasus[m]>
Hola OscarL :)
<Begasus[m]>
Could check other packages with plugins if they behave the same, so far no patches involved
<OscarL>
to be fair, we only ocassionally test packages installed under home, so we may have similar problems in many places :-D
<Begasus[m]>
but add-ons/Qt5 should be in a default path, eg unrelated to the port?
<Begasus[m]>
so I guess this wont work when installed in ~/config/packages
<OscarL>
was about to write that: I guess they do not expect to have libraries/addons possibly located in 4 different places (system/home and packaged/non-packaged)
<OscarL>
(same with Python, took a few tries to make it work OK in all locations)
<nekobot>
• OscarL (fc619c70): python3.14: update to version 3.14.0rc1. (#12618)
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<OscarL>
Seems only Gentoo got that rc1 before us :-P
<OscarL>
"take that Arch!"
<OscarL>
(mmm, seems "Scoop" beat me too, oh well)
<Begasus[m]>
lol
<Begasus[m]>
OK, when I install djvutranslator in there I see the translator in ~/config/non-packaged/add-ons/Translators
<Begasus[m]>
when I do this for KMymoney the Qt5 directory doesn't show?
* Begasus[m]
bumps head, it's in /boot/home/config/add-ons
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<OscarL>
from a Python PR..., a bot comments: "Thanks @<dev name> for the PR 🌮🎉.. I'm working now to backport this PR to: 3.14." \n "🐍🍒⛏🤖"
<OscarL>
between the anthropomorphisation and the emojis... yikes.
<janking>
The Wall with PinkFloyd is nice to hear on my mp3 player :)
<OscarL>
(PR gets hard to read between so much bots and usless emojis)
<OscarL>
janking: glad you enjoy it.
<janking>
:)
<Begasus[m]>
give the bot a boot :)
<janking>
i use Audacious :)
<OscarL>
while I like their work, I can't listen to Pink Floyd for long periods (say, half an LP)... without getting irrationally angry for some unknown reason, lol.
<Begasus[m]>
never got that far here :P
<janking>
:)
<OscarL>
(to be fair... haven't attepted to listen to a full disc again since the early 2000s...)
<janking>
ok
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: I guess my brain's wiring is just messed up... I listen to Carcass or Cradle of Filth to "relax", LOL.
<Begasus[m]>
that's on you OscarL :P
<Begasus[m]>
lol!
<Begasus[m]>
we've lost a momument in the metal music yesterday
<janking>
:)
* OscarL
listens to "Dark side of the moon"... gets Hulk-mode... listen to "The Principle of Evil Made Flesh"... sleeps like a baby. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<Begasus[m]>
heh
<janking>
*:)
<OscarL>
speaking of crazy ones... Farewell Ozzy!
<Begasus[m]>
you can't start KMymoney also from Terminal without given it the path /boot/home/config/apps/KMyMoney
<janking>
R.I.P Ozzy!
<Begasus[m]>
Not the biggest fan, but they made some good music back then :)
<janking>
oh yes they did
<Begasus[m]>
~> tldr checkfs
<Begasus[m]>
`checkfs` documentation is not available.
<Begasus[m]>
you know that one OscarL ? it can be handy at times :)
<Begasus[m]>
although I should use it a bit more :D
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: yeah, I even have "export TLDR_AUTO_UPDATE_DISABLED=1" in my UserSetupEnvironment.
<OscarL>
(but then I forgot to use it further)
<Begasus[m]>
gotcha :)
<Begasus[m]>
k, uninstalled a gazilion user pip installed packages :P
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* janking
is idle: BRB
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<phschafft>
morning.
<OscarL>
builder finished the updated build (for x86_64), good thing, because in this netbook, can barely test unoptimized builds without it cooking itself, apparently :-D
<OscarL>
good morning phschafft.
<Begasus[m]>
'lo phschafft
<Begasus[m]>
whoot, too many python stuff uninstalled, still need setproctitle for kde-builder :P
<phschafft>
setproctitle?
<Begasus[m]>
yeah, dependency to be able to run kde-builder on Haiku
<phschafft>
ah, I see.
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<OscarL>
builder's report.txt still stuck :-/
<Begasus[m]>
yeah :(
<OscarL>
also... how one can know exactly which version of HaikuPorter are the builders currently running?
<OscarL>
(not finding it on the build logs)
<Begasus[m]>
removing obsolete package haikuporter_source-1.3.2-1-source.hpkg from cache
<OscarL>
I'd want to know if I can start trying to use "_python3.10" instead of "_python310", for example, but that needs "haikuporter#322".
<Begasus[m]>
guessing it's using 1.3.3 then?
<OscarL>
isn't that just because it just build a new haikuporter release?
<Begasus[m]>
might be :)
<Begasus[m]>
push 1 to check?
<OscarL>
as in... a new .recipe got pushed... it might not be the actual version used on builders (and I would assume it doesn't)
<OscarL>
Begasus[m]: either that.... or I'll ask when either jmairboeck or kallisti5 are around :-D
* OscarL
hopes to start "poking" around /dev/misc/poke soon enough. Need to add read/write for MSR for some other projects.
<OscarL>
(the mere thought of /me messing around with CPU registers should send shivers down the spines of Haiku's devs :-D)
<OscarL>
or cause some laughs and head shaking at review time, I guess :-)
<Begasus[m]>
or both :P
<OscarL>
"as dangerous as a monkey with a razor blade" (rough translation of a saying we have down here, for situations like these :-D)
<OscarL>
anyway, enough of my nonsense, for a few hours at least. Read you later, folks. Have a great day!
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* janking
has returned
<Ellenor>
hallo
<janking>
hello
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<phschafft>
just do some unprotected poking around, what could go wrong? ;)
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<Ellenor>
xD?
* phschafft
wonders if he should write some code in SIRTX that allows for a peek and poke emulating other machines by mapping the addresses to virtual functions.
* phschafft
thinks: like if you write to a specific video memory cell it will result in a call to the terminal driver to jump there and output the value.
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<scantysnax>
so i asked this earlier, but had to leave before a reply, i am wondering if it is possible to upgrade x86-gcc2 to hybrid, or whatever has a newer gcc.
<Habbie>
15:19:39 Begasus[m] | how do you mean, gcc13 is already in 32bit?
<Habbie>
15:20:17 Begasus[m] | if you need the "new" compiler in Terminal just switch with "setarch x86"
<scantysnax>
oh
<scantysnax>
haha my bad
<scantysnax>
my code will definitely not compile on gcc2.
<scantysnax>
sorry my wireless is super slow.
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<scantysnax>
can anybod read this?
<scantysnax>
anybody*
<erysdren>
yes
<Habbie>
i can read this
<scantysnax>
ok thank you :-)
<scantysnax>
just want to make sure my connection was still alive.
<scantysnax>
i'm on a nightly, doesn't seem to be a BeBook there.... (broken link), wondering where i can dowload it?
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<erysdren>
thats a local filesystem link, janking
<janking>
yes i dint think about that :)
<janking>
can i remove it?
<erysdren>
not on IRC, no
<janking>
ok
<janking>
shit
<erysdren>
its ok haha
<janking>
:)
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<Begasus[m]>
just had some food :) re*
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<jmairboeck>
OscarL (when you get back online): at least the 32 bit builder should be new enough because "any" packages now work correctly on secondaryArch, but I hope that waddlesplash updated both of them, so I guess using PACKAGE_NAME should be fine now. I don't know about kallisti5[m]'s riscv64 builder though.
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<scantysnax>
mobile phone tethering not working properly. sometimes my phone shows up in networking, but usually not, and i cannot connect to it.
<scantysnax>
or it pops in and out of the list.
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<Begasus[m]>
no experience there
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<scantysnax>
tried to compile my NES emulator on haiku 32-bit, but i don't have libxml, and no way to get it :-(
<scantysnax>
brb
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<scantysnax>
so, what's new and exciting?
<Begasus[m]>
not sure how much you are uptodate scantysnax :)
<scantysnax>
generally i am up to date, i suppose.
<Begasus[m]>
I'm still fidling with Qt lately
<scantysnax>
ah yes, the Qt expert.
<Begasus[m]>
argh no expert please :)
<scantysnax>
the Qt goto guy?
<Begasus[m]>
what I can do anyone can do the same, no magic here :)
<Begasus[m]>
maybe in regards to packaging yes ;)
<scantysnax>
i see... i want to get more involved with Haiku development, i was thinking to add a "home" button to tracker windows in single window mode.
<Begasus[m]>
I think it's been mentioned before? not sure though
<Begasus[m]>
maybe update go? or enable it in gcc (iirc that would be possible)? :D
<scantysnax>
perhaps...
<Begasus[m]>
but that's not Haiku API specific enough I guess :)
<scantysnax>
my NES emulator is my baby, but i need other things to work on.
<Begasus[m]>
I had some basic things going on for go in gcc11 (but that's been a long time, don't think I still have that work anymore)
<scantysnax>
well, i still have a new "keywords.asm" for Pe, i have to learn how to update the current one.
<Begasus[m]>
2 new ones for qtdeclerative :) Warning: POLICY WARNING: no matching provides "lib:libqt6quickvectorimage" for "lib/libQt6QuickVectorImage.so.6.9.0"
<scantysnax>
for x86/x64
<psionic>
oh Haiku has BitchX?!?
<psionic>
I love this system
<Begasus[m]>
:)
<Begasus[m]>
scantysnax you should talk with OscarL on that, I think he would know more about that
<scantysnax>
yes, that was the plan, as far as i remember. i haven't seen him in a few days.
<Begasus[m]>
he's been around in the last days, only problem is his time-frame :)
<scantysnax>
yeah, i feel bad that he doesn't have a solid internet connection. i would be willing to donate to his cause, i think maybe i mentioned that before.
<Begasus[m]>
yeah you did
<scantysnax>
i can spare a 20 moneys every month, it wouldn't put a hole in my pocket.
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<Begasus[m]>
there, done for today, qtdeclaretive upped with new deps, will see how this works out tomorrow :)
<Begasus[m]>
cu peeps!
<scantysnax>
seeya
<erysdren>
cya Begasus
<scantysnax>
haha i just realise that every time i say "sure" it gets highlighted... because someone here is named sure.
<scantysnax>
realised*
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<nekobot>
• pulkomandy (cd47e9cf): vbindiff: new recipe.
<Anarchos>
how do i uninstall orphaned packages (packages installed as dependencies of, say, package A, and left over when package A is uninstalled).
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<PulkoMandy>
Not automatically because we don't track them. But you can search package that nothing depends on using pkgman search -ni, and uninstall the ones from the list that you don't need