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<scanty> anyone around at this hour?
<erysdren> depends
<scanty> well, you're either here, or not, or both.
* phschafft is clearly in superposition.
<scanty> not if i look.
<phschafft> cat physics.
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<scanty> *mreow*
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* kallisti5[m] gets a broom
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<Begasus[m]> g'morning peeps
<Begasus[m]> kallisti5: buildmasters back online :) thanks for all the work there!
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/8bc8b5997713...561ace9f4e3f
<nekobot> • Begasus (561ace9f): appstream, 32bit fix (#12539)
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<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/561ace9f4e3f...6d9d33c120ef
<nekobot> • Begasus (6d9d33c1): cmake, bump to 4.0.3, disable 3.31.5, drop 4.1.0~rc1 (#12536)
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<OscarL> good day, Begasus[m].
<OscarL> nice to see builders working again. double nice to notice the last 3 pythons went OK on them.
<Begasus[m]> hola OscarL !
<Begasus[m]> yeah :) waiting for cmake to finish, then merge mame (will be stress test for the builmasters) :)
<Begasus[m]> grabbing a bite, biab :)
<OscarL> enjoy!
<OscarL> kallisti5[m]: a "Thanks for your work!", and a question... do you know if the work-dir for Python 3.13 got manually cleaned? (it failed to unmount last time)
<OscarL> (asking before I try triggering a build again for that)
<OscarL> *Issue was on the x86_64 bits builder
<Begasus[m]> back, with fresh cup of coffee
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6d9d33c120ef...26fc0e6c0cdb
<nekobot> • thelastpsion (26fc0e6c): mame: bump to 0.278 (#12538)
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<Begasus[m]> k, another round on gtk4
<Begasus[m]> combining spread out patches ...
<phschafft> morning.
<Begasus[m]> meep phschafft
<Begasus[m]> bugger ... Dependency librsvg-2.0 found: NO. Found 2.50.7 but need: '>= 2.52.0'
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* phschafft provides Begasus[m] with a cookie for the woor.
<phschafft> *work
<Begasus[m]> nice, thanks! just what I needed :D
<Begasus[m]> no more shadow on gtk4 demo :)
<Begasus[m]> downside, can't seem to resize the main 2 windows :P
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<Begasus[m]> ow, when launched from the "Application Launcher" the icon browser has a full native window :)
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<phschafft> :)
<Begasus[m]> trying local update on librsvg (2.60.0) with rust .. yay :P
<Begasus[m]> bugger ... std.9b903c7c25c6c255-cgu.10:(.text._ZN3std3sys6random19hashmap_random_keys17h6c04576eeb078751E+0x1a): undefined reference to `arc4random_buf'
<Begasus[m]> down to 2.52.11 ...
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<PetePete> Good morning, heroes.
<PetePete> Champions of nostalgia.
<PetePete> Purveyors of fine code and classic UX
<PetePete> Idefatigably dedicated keyboard warriors
<PetePete> Honored as I always am to be in your presence.
<PetePete> Any chance we'll see full-disk encryption baked into the installer by... oh say... this afternoon? :D :D :D
<gordonjcp> why would you want full disk encryption?
<gordonjcp> if you want to lose data, just drill a hole through the drive
<gordonjcp> disks are too slow as it is
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<Habbie> perhaps the goal is not 'losing data'
<gordonjcp> well then don't use full disk encryption
<Habbie> i've never lost data to it
<Halian> Yet
<gordonjcp> indeed
<Habbie> well i keep backups anyway, there are many ways to lose data
<Habbie> i'm just trying to say "if you want to lose data" is a weird thing to focus on here
<PetePete> I don't run any system unencrypted
<Habbie> PetePete, anyway, you're typing in the wrong window. you should be typing into an editor ;)
<Habbie> depending on your timezone you have between 2 and 10 hours left
<PetePete> Wait.. is this a 4th of July reference? I don't get the joke though
<Habbie> you said 'by this afternoon'
<PetePete> oh lol
<PetePete> wow... I'm dense haha
<Habbie> the ID4 movie had some hardcore software dev though
<PetePete> I'll get on it
<Habbie> very realistic too
<PetePete> Anyone know here how to code? I need some pointers
<PetePete> like... what even IS coding? Let's start there.
<Habbie> here you go https://xkcd.com/138/
<gordonjcp> PetePete: nobody cares what's on your disk
<PetePete> gordonjcp: That's absurd
<PetePete> Seriously
<gordonjcp> PetePete: nobody cares about you enough to care about your data. You're not that interesting.
<PetePete> I'm definitely not. But your assertion is a complete fail and you know it.
<PetePete> Now I will politely ask you to not engage with me
<gordonjcp> PetePete: give even one example of why you would *ever* want disk encryption
<Habbie> PetePete does not need to defend this request
<gordonjcp> there's literally no use for it, beyond "because you can"
<PetePete> Eh. I know it's not a priority
<PetePete> I always tease the devs with that
<PetePete> I just run Haiku in a VM for now.
<gordonjcp> like
<gordonjcp> what is disk encryption supposed to protect you from?
<gordonjcp> apart of course from being able to boot your PC unless you're right in front of it
<PetePete> Bitterness is like glaucoma isn't it? lol
<gordonjcp> that probably means something to you, I guess
<gordonjcp> amazing how people who love disk encryption can never really explain what it's for though
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<Habbie> it's amazing that you think people will respond usefully when you talk to them like that :)
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<PetePete> The coffee isn't working
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<kallisti5[m]> <gordonjcp> "amazing how people who love disk..." <- I run disk encryption in-case my laptop is physically stolen. I have important credentials to *looks around* everything on there
<kallisti5[m]> also, it's a legal requirement for some of the work I do.
<PetePete> Every last one of my clients requires it for one reason or another, including mine and my wife's businesses
<PetePete> HIPAA, FERPA, Classified etc...
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<bjorkintosh> kallisti5[m]: what sorta work? is it NDAed?
<Habbie> or there might be personal data (about other people) on there
<Habbie> that in itself is reason enough for me
<Habbie> (also work mandates it)
<bjorkintosh> so it works well if the whole chain is encrypted, including communication.
<Begasus[m]> quite an update on sqlite3, current libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 , new libsqlite3.so.3.50.2 :P
<Habbie> Begasus[m], technology advances at an unfathomable rate!
<Begasus[m]> unfath.. what? (me doesn't know the word) :)
<Habbie> 'niet te volgen'
<bjorkintosh> it was a unit of nautical measure for depth, Begasus[m]
<Begasus[m]> thanks habbie bjorkintosh :)
<Habbie> that it was too
<Begasus[m]> well, atleast to Arch it's the correct version
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<Habbie> .2 is newer than the ##sqlite channel topic says :D
<Habbie> (now fixed :) )
<Begasus[m]> they still had 3.50.0? :P
<Begasus[m]> almost a week old
<PetePete> Dinosaurs...
<Begasus[m]> 3.50.1 almost a month :P
<Begasus[m]> lol
<Habbie> it had .1 :)
<PetePete> Cavemen! BeasTS
* Habbie is guilty as charged
<Begasus[m]> one of the benifits of being in the crafts room, lot's of updates passing by there :)
<Begasus[m]> tsss habbie :P
<Begasus[m]> then you can create a PR for an update :D
<Begasus[m]> buggers removed configure.ac, so some changes are needed in the new recipe :P
<Begasus[m]> also some changes needed for readline vs libedit ...
<Begasus[m]> closing down here, cu peeps!
<PetePete> Later, Beg-leg
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<yann64[m]> Forum is down, is this expected (upgrade or something else)?
<yann64[m]> I have a "Bad gateway" error
<scantysnax> good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night :-)
<scantysnax> !seen OcarL
<scantysnax> hmm guess we have no "seen" module on the bot
<scantysnax> I meant OscarL, but whatever.
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<scantysnax> so... what's new and exciting>
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<nipos> Forum has been down for (probably more than) two hours. kallisti5 are you aware of the issue?
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<kallisti5[m]> ... i wasn't aware. I'm aware now 😆
<kallisti5[m]> checking
<nipos> Wow,that was fast,thanks :)
<kallisti5[m]> 0/3 nodes are available: 1 node(s) had untolerated taint {node.kubernetes.io/memory-pressure: }, 2 Insufficient cpu
<kallisti5[m]> mmmkay
<kallisti5[m]> should be fixed in a moment. coming up now
<nipos> It's working again 🎉
<scantysnax> ok going home bbl
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi there.
<Habbie> hello
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi there Habbie.
<andreasdr[m]> How is it going?
<Habbie> pretty decently
<Habbie> you?
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<andreasdr[m]> Nice.
<andreasdr[m]> I am sort of fine.
<andreasdr[m]> Low on money currently.
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