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<x512[m]> Cmd+Q default shortcut broken?
<Skipp_OSX> on Tracker?
<Skipp_OSX> It shouldn't be I just tested it to make sure it works the way it's supposed to.
<x512[m]> On minimal test GUI application.
<Skipp_OSX> hmmm appears so
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<Skipp_OSX> I'm not sure when that got broken
<x512[m]> Fix seems fine and it works.
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<HaikuUser> So what's the deal with the 32 bit version of Haiku, does it only work on old 32 bit systems? I can't get it to boot on either my nice laptop or this Atom based netbook, but the 64 bit version works fine
<Skipp_OSX> It should work on all 32-bit systems (that it works on)
<HaikuUser> so it won't work on a 64 bit cpu?
<Skipp_OSX> I know others are running on Atom based laptop so no, that's not the reason.
<HaikuUser> hmm
<Skipp_OSX> It should work on a 64-bit CPU yes
<HaikuUser> I guess I could try one more time, but the nightly gcc build just goes to a black screen after showing the usual boot screen, typing from the 64 bit version
<Skipp_OSX> You'll only be able to use about 2.5GiB of RAM total, but I have a 64-bit system with 8GiB RAM running the 32-bit version here.
<HaikuUser> hmm
<Skipp_OSX> try safe-mode video? But if 64-bit boots 32-bit should too...
<HaikuUser> that's what i thought, yeah
<HaikuUser> it wasn't my laptop come to think of it it was my HP Elitedesk, the beta 5 32bit won't boot on there
<HaikuUser> or on this netbook but let me try again and see
<HaikuUser> I suppose i could just also be happy with this working fine the way it is haha
<HaikuUser> feels weird playing Diablo on Haiku, like wait this isn't Chorum 3 or or however you spell that
<HaikuUser> my friend got the boxed set for that game when we were in high school
<Skipp_OSX> great game
<HaikuUser> I was playing with the 32 bit build in Virtualbox the other day, to see if I could install Haiku on top of BeOS Max edition, and I did manage to more or less
<HaikuUser> but pretty much all the games that came with it had dependancy errors. The Hexen port works well though
<HaikuUser> the only 32 bit old app I'm really craving I think is this one music player that had vu plugins that would show up in the deskbar
<HaikuUser> and I remember a BeOS app that you could hum into a microphone and it would turn it into midi somehow
<HaikuUser> wow the dedicated scroll area on this trackpad even works, Haiku sure is nice
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<Snappo> hi OscarL
<OscarL> In my experience, on machines that are "BIOS only"... both 32 and 64 bits versions of Haiku work ok if the other does (assuming CPU is 64 bits, of course).
<OscarL> hey there Snappo.
<Snappo> I don't think this netbook has UEFI but it has a windows 7 starter badge on it
<OscarL> on machines that have (U)EFI... things can get a bit more complicated.
<Snappo> I got it at a pawn shop for $30
<Snappo> having fun playing random Linux games from my teen years
<Snappo> Frozen Bubble isn't in the Arch repos, smh
<Snappo> it's in Haiku Ports though
<OscarL> I have "Win7 era" netbooks, Atom N450/N455, those are BIOS only... no big problems there. On the Atom N2600 based one (also "Win7" era)... the crappy/early UEFI gave me some issues at first.
<OscarL> on machines that are EFI only (no CSM/Legacy)... some only seem to boot 64 bits Haiku (at least that's the case for Begasus[m], IIRC).
<OscarL> In any case Snappo... give the boot loader troubleshoot options a go. Usually, either disabling SMP, or forcing fail-safe graphics mode, have helped me the most.
<OscarL> (had to use less and less that "disable SMP" as time went by, but I had to use it for a looong time in one of the Atom netbooks)
<Snappo> it shows up as Intel Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx
<OscarL> For the internal screen, the intel_extreme graphics driver should work OK... just don't try to use it with an externa monitor.
<Snappo> heh ok
<Snappo> what happens if i try to use an external monitor, Bill Gates breaks my legs?
<OscarL> alternatively... if your ARE going to use an external monitor... hook it up before booting into Haiku, and force fail-safe / VESA graphics.
<Snappo> I'm not too worried about it, I have the EliteDesk too
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<OscarL> Snappo: nah, is just that the intel_extreme driver in Haiku has some issues with those GMA 3150 video cards. Just trying to change resoltions might screw things up :-D
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<Snappo> I kind of want to see if x512[m] 's nvidia driver works on my new laptop but I don't want to nuke my CachyOS install
<OscarL> For reference, ticket with my findings related to that GMA3150 in the Atoms N4xxx: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/19041
<Snappo> I gotta say I am super impressed by ticket activity in general, what a solid project and community this is
<Snappo> better response to my fat ticket than I've seen on things I've paid for
<Snappo> Walter 4ever :P
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<Skipp_OSX> https://0x0.st/85Qe.png <= Disks menu in bottom left menu
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<Begasus[m]> g'morning peeps
<Skipp_OSX> heyo
<Begasus[m]> Still running EeOS Max Skipp_OSX ? :-)
<Begasus[m]> eek ... BeOS*
<Skipp_OSX> well the original BeOS doesn't have video drivers in VMWare but Max does
<Skipp_OSX> BeOS R5 black and white only I should say
<Begasus[m]> not sure if I had this with VMWare or VirtualBox, but had R5 running in colors then (been a while since I booted it) :)
<Skipp_OSX> You can install a video driver to make R5 color in VMWare, but MAX includes it by default.
<Begasus[m]> Had some great time with it back then, BeOS Max Ed. had that video driver from cola-coder iirc (NVidia)
<Skipp_OSX> MAX also has a new version of Tracker with single window browse mode.
<Begasus[m]> right!
<Begasus[m]> should dig in the archives here one day, think I still got some iso for PhOS from back then :)
<Skipp_OSX> I would like that for the Dan0 decorator :)
<Begasus[m]> isn't the source for that decorator out there somewhere? ;)
<Skipp_OSX> Not that I've ever seen, no.
<Skipp_OSX> The Trash icon doesn't update correctly on MAX either so that's been a bug for a long time... but it should be fixed for Beta6.
<Begasus[m]> +1 saw the comments in the channel, great catch!
<Skipp_OSX> you see the Disks menu in bottom left fix screenshot?
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<Begasus[m]> no, don't think I have? was it posted here?
<Begasus[m]> x512 did you get a chance on checking out the cmake hpkg creator PR? I commented on that with the error
<Skipp_OSX> yeah just a little bit ago if you look in the logs
<Begasus[m]> lol, my account on bugtracker contained a really old email address :)
<Begasus[m]> ah, got it Skipp_OSX +1 doesn't expand indeed here on beta5
<Skipp_OSX> can you click the Disks icon to open Disks? I don't think you can.
<Begasus[m]> nothing happens when clicking on it
<Skipp_OSX> That's what I thought, yeah, new one is clickable.
<Skipp_OSX> non-clickable and non-expanded, terrible
<Begasus[m]> ;)
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<Begasus[m]> this "--log-level=VERBOSE" can be handy with cmake :)
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<Begasus[m]> g'morning jmairboeck
<jmairboeck> g'morgen Begasus[m]
<Begasus[m]> keep hitting on something when going over those qt6 recipes :)
<Begasus[m]> like qt6-base, declared INSTALL_SYSCONFDIR:STRING=etcc/xdg (no directory in /system/settings/etc for that)
<Begasus[m]> so changed to "INSTALL_SYSCONFDIR:STRING=settings/xdg"
<Begasus[m]> Qt6LanguageServerPrivate_DIR:PATH=Qt6LanguageServerPrivate_DIR-NOTFOUND
<Begasus[m]> another one (qt6-tools) :) I guess it makes sense there
<Begasus[m]> bah, another rebuild for qt6_declarative
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<Begasus[m]> 3 weeks to prepare for 25.08, should get started on automating some things for that :)
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<Begasus[m]> k, enough cleaning on qt for now, further cleaning shouldn't affect functionality ...
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<Begasus[m]> First part ok so far :) recipes bumped, now sorting out build orders :)
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<Anarchos> hello
<Anarchos> i want to copy files keeping the biggest in case of name clash. Is it possible ?
<Begasus[m]> Hi Anarchos
<Anarchos> hello Begasus[m]
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<Begasus[m]> 40 packages already :)
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<nekobot> • Begasus (8dfb27b1): libgit2, add version 1.9.1 (#12628)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e5467c9fc7dd...8dfb27b16998
<nekobot> • suhr (23870da7): ecode: update to 0.7.2 (#12629)
<nekobot> [haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to branch master: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/8dfb27b16998...23870da73ffa
<andreaa> Where do you think people disappear to?
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev58980] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=24f487110666+%5E6929e960861b
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 24f487110666 - BWindow: fix Quit shortcut, uppercase the inputted key
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<scanty> any devs around? i have a question about BWindow::ResizeTo()
* Begasus[m] looks around ...
<Begasus[m]> not at my desk :D
<scanty> oh hi Begasus[m].. didn't see you there!
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<Begasus[m]> was trying hard (cough) to hide :)
<scanty> lols.
<Begasus[m]> ps, hi scanty :)
<Begasus[m]> closing down here for today
<Begasus[m]> cu peeps!
<scanty> have a nice evening, Begasus[m]
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<Anarchos> Begasus[m] i put «SetConfigVar DEBUG : HAIKU_TOP src apps remotedesktop: 1 : global ;» in my UserBuildConfig, but it doesn't compile it in debug_1 with «jam -j5 -q RemoteDesktop»
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<Anarchos> hello mmu_man
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<Skipp_OSX> I am around now, what is your question about BWindow::ResizeTo() ?
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<diver> hi Skipp_OSX: could you please take a look at https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/16315?
<Skipp_OSX> no
<Skipp_OSX> I'm not doing line wrapping, at least not in the foreseeable future.
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<diver> got it, thanks anyway :)
<Anarchos> strange, i still got ssh login troubles. I can't even do 'ssh localhost' though the password is set and PermitRootLogin is yes
<Anarchos> but is a homebrew distribution, to test some tweaks in remote drawing
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<Habbie> anything in logs?
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<Anarchos> Habbie no , jsut ssh replying 'permission denied' when i type the password
<gordonjcp> evening
<gordonjcp> somewhat blue sky thinking right here, but is there anyone good at Haiku style icons that'd be into doing an icon spritesheet for an app? Maybe 60 or so icones
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<Skipp_OSX> closest we got is Zumi's icon set