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<AlienSoldier>
anyone know how to type accent (like é) in firefox? ctrl-alt to marge alt gr does not work, it turn the border of the window to blue.
<AlienSoldier>
*to make alt-gr
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<sen>
anyone know why there’s no sensitivity control for trackpads in Input? is this an intentional thing because the defaults should be good enough? one of two remaining annoyances on my laptop is that it takes like four full swipes to get across the screen, so I’m curious :)
<Skipp_OSX>
It's based on your keymap, you can look at Keymap to find out.
<Skipp_OSX>
by default it's Option+E in US-International keymap
<sen>
Skipp_OSX: looks like they left shortly after asking
<Skipp_OSX>
oh well
<Skipp_OSX>
patches welcome I guess, no idea on trackpad. The feature is not implemented in the driver
<sen>
yeah will start taking a look at this next probably. I have no experience with trackpad hardware, but I knew nothing about ACPI before I took battery stuff on so we’ll see.
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<sen>
AlienSoldier: 21:50 <Skipp_OSX> It's based on your keymap, you can look at Keymap to find out. 21:51 <Skipp_OSX> by default it's Option+E in US-International keymap
<sen>
(your question was answered while you were away)
<AlienSoldier>
thank you sen and Skipp_OSX, i will try it next time i go 64bit
<AlienSoldier>
ho, option e, this is like alt e? this was not working when i did try it.
<Skipp_OSX>
option is what we call the "Windows key"
<AlienSoldier>
i see, i have that one with a window logo, this is the one i will try next time.
<gordonjcp>
it'd probably work "out of the box" with minor tweaks for modern gcc
<gordonjcp>
erysdren: I have the book "Introduction to Programming the PDP8", that my mum found in a charity shop in Edinburgh years ago
<phschafft>
gordonjcp: my interest is more into the PDP-8 itself (given my background) so I consider your code more a form of compressed documentation ;)
<gordonjcp>
erysdren: that's kind of what prompted me to write an emulator
<phschafft>
and the simh code is... not that easy to read.
<phschafft>
so with all the web resources and simh and your sources I hope to figure out answers to my questions ;)
<erysdren>
phschafft: still hoping to get my hands on that SIRTX-VM assembler once its further along :3
<erysdren>
and the VM itself too, so i can run programs
<gordonjcp>
phschafft: ask anything you like, in here or in PM
<phschafft>
erysdren: I integrated the BF code and your code into it monday(?).
<gordonjcp>
phschafft: or join ##pdp8 ;-)
<gordonjcp>
erysdren: you too if you like :-)
<phschafft>
so it now can also run brinfuck and your test program.
<erysdren>
yayy
<phschafft>
I also implemented more opcodes (and corrected some from you ;)
<phschafft>
you know, the goal is to run DOOM and WfW on it! ;)
<gordonjcp>
haha
<erysdren>
lol
<gordonjcp>
you probably could eventually
<phschafft>
I mean it would be real fun to, in the end, run it on a machine I soldered myself ;)
<phschafft>
erysdren: I consider to split the ASM into it's own package and publish it on CPAN.
<phschafft>
so that it's not a binary but a reusable lib with just a binary using it. which would allow it to be used by other software as well.
<phschafft>
e.g. for a web based one.
<phschafft>
gordonjcp: not sure if you are aware, but I have access to a real PDP-8.
<phschafft>
and maybe, some day I build some extention card for it to allow it to... $random_nerd_stuff.
<phschafft>
erysdren: just updated the homepage with a few more random details. not much today (as I'm about to leave) but it's generally in constant improvement: https://sirtx.keep-cool.org/
<erysdren>
very nice!
<phschafft>
the next parts for the ASM I want to write are some 'macro' style things to auto generate headers.
<phschafft>
I'm also considering a number of additional synthetic directives.
<phschafft>
like 'substr REG, STR' that will auto place STR into rodata section and generate a substr opcode with the corresponding offsets.
<phschafft>
and then that in turn could be used by other synthetic opcodes to allow string arguments without the requirement for the author to manually allocate a register and set all the offsets.
<gordonjcp>
phschafft: I didn't! That's so cool, which model?
<phschafft>
gordonjcp: I'm not fully sure at this point, need to check. it's a bit of a special case. I was told it is one of only two delivered to the GDR
<phschafft>
we have no drives for it, but it comes with a attached many-channel multimeter for automatic circuit testing
<gordonjcp>
you can emulate a TU58 I think if it has a serial port?
<phschafft>
the multimeter is another full size cabinet.
<phschafft>
it is currently in storage. but a friend took out all boards and made photos of them and started (not sure what the status us) to make diagrams of all of them.
<gordonjcp>
anyway yeah opcodes and stuff, what do you want to know?
<phschafft>
now I want to get out, donkey is waiting already.
<phschafft>
but I feel like we will chat again ;)
<gordonjcp>
phschafft: okay, later :-) Have fun
<phschafft>
:)
<gordonjcp>
phschafft: I'm off outside too, too nice and sunny
<scantysnax>
it's going to take jobs away from people.
<scantysnax>
why pay someone when you can have a machine to it for you
<nipos>
My personal advantage is that I'm not that easy to replace with only AI,it would take a robot combined with AI to replace everything I'm doing :P But yes,the future really doesn't look good :/
<Skipp_OSX>
Why work for somebody else when you can have a machine do your job for you?
<nipos>
Will the machine also pay my rents?
<scantysnax>
that would be nice.
<Skipp_OSX>
The profits from the AI generated work will pay your rent
<nipos>
Lol,why?
<Skipp_OSX>
The same reason that the business is using the value generated to replace a worker.
<nipos>
If they can pay a evil megacorp to do the same job for less money than me,why should I profit from it?
<Skipp_OSX>
Well you become the evil megacorp yourself, the tools used are democratized for all.
<nipos>
Uhm no,they're owned by a few Silicon Valley giants.
<Skipp_OSX>
The tools themselves are sure, but not the businesses using the tools to create value to customers.
<Skipp_OSX>
So that's just a cost of doing business.
<x512[m]>
Hardware with freedom of use and based on open standards still exists.
<x512[m]>
Hopefully not everything is like Apple.
<scantysnax>
once AI become self aware, we are all in trouble.
<nipos>
Anyway,you can probably replace some manager who does paperwork the whole day,but not someone who does like 5 different tasks at the same time,not all of them being on a computer.So I'd say I'm safe for the next few years.I still hate what's happening with the modern internet.
<Skipp_OSX>
It's a lot of hype like booms and busts of the past.
<x512[m]>
If AI can become self-aware in theory, it certainly will some day. It is just a law of evolution.
<nipos>
It's not intelligence,actually.It's just statistics which word is most likely to come next.
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<phschafft>
muede.
<x512[m]>
Well, humans are basically the same.
<x512[m]>
Building statistic model to survive.
<nipos>
Humans understand what they say and do and can think about it,while computers can't.They can only build statistically likely word combinations out of terrabytes of pirated content.
<bjorkintosh>
give it time, nipos.
<scantysnax>
the better and better AI gets, the more power we will need.
<bjorkintosh>
we humans regularly elect parrots to power, whose only skill is the ability to say what people want to hear the most (politicians)
<scantysnax>
good point.
<phschafft>
I have yet to find someone who 0) could demonstrate me that there is any inherent difference between technology and life, 1) that humans are in any way special
<phschafft>
1) includes implicitly the ability to 'understand' something.
<waddlesplash>
sen: do you see Touchpad preferences or Mouse preferences in Input?
<phschafft>
that magic concept that people ask technology to have before they are willing aknowlage the I in AI has not been demonstarted to me in any form in any living being.
<nipos>
I don't really care that much if it's intelligence,statistics or just stupidity.What I care about is the unprecedented harm it causes to the open internet,free software and FOSS infrastructure.And that's enough of a reason for me to never touch anything that advertises being powered by "AI"
<bjorkintosh>
nipos: it'll touch you before you touch it.
<nipos>
Uhm no.
<nipos>
I've been avoiding Big Tech/GAFAM successfully for years.
<Skipp_OSX>
Investor capital is going to anything AI related right now, it's similar to past cycles like dot.com or cloud
<waddlesplash>
this conversation is not really Haiku related, please take it to #haiku-offtopic
<scantysnax>
so, how about that Haiku OS? ^_^
<Anarchos>
how to display the content of a BMessage* (msg parameter in a method) in Debugger ?
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<Anarchos>
ah i managed to improve BePDF !
<andreasdr[m]>
Actually, pretty interesting, musks grok ai can produce examples or code to initialize e.g. powerpc 603 mmu. Pretty helpful maybe. Just an example of nice ai usage maybe.
<andreasdr[m]>
Also OpenAI should be able. Also I tested chinese AI. Its as good as grok and openai. They can even do 3d math and explain why and if shadow mapping and ssao e.g. is possible even using deferred rendering.
<andreasdr[m]>
What they can not do yet is e.g. managing of efficient styling information in styled texts. Like an IDE showing and updating colors of e.g. C++ keywords.
<andreasdr[m]>
... can not ...
<andreasdr[m]>
The last one is advanced algorithmic with math and data structures.
<sen>
waddlesplash: touchpad preferences, it has the preferences for where the scrolling zones are and scrolling sensitivity and stuff, but nothing about the cursor
<sen>
(and also trackpoint preferences since this laptop has one of those too, but I don't like trackpoints and do like touchpads :) )
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* Anarchos
sent a patch to BePDF to make autoreload work :)
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<Halian>
o/
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