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<Begasus[m]>
g'morning peeps
<Begasus[m]>
yay new rust! thanks nielx !
<erysdren>
good morning Begasus
<Begasus[m]>
Hi there erysdren (@_oftc_erysdren:matrix.org) :)
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<andreaa>
I apologize for all the challenges today and in the past... I never challenge, in case I withdraw all the challenges and have mercy on me... peace and good
<andreaa>
peace
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<scantysnax>
i just updated, so maybe something is broken
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<scantysnax>
let me revert, and see what happens.
<scantysnax>
brb
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<meleager>
bonjour, folks. i got a build (@haiku-nightly.mmc) created and booted. i'm investigating mmc/sdhc missing support for my crbook's emmc. is there a way to dynamic unload and load new version of the add-on such as mmc, sdhci (bus drivers) or mmc_disk?
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<scantysnax>
ok, so i reverted, and gcc is working properly now.
<scantysnax>
which possibly means something is broken in latest hrev.
<scantysnax>
(32-bit only) for now.
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<scantysnax>
after a reboot gcc is working proerly on latest hrev.
<scantysnax>
strange bug, that.
<Anarchos>
Meleager yes
<Habbie>
Meleager, ah, haiku also doesn't do emmc on my chromebook. for that reason (and also the emmc is super small) i got a small samsung FIT usb stick. it's nice.
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<meleager>
Thanks, Habbie, yes I have a NVMe and a USB and a SDHC but they all stick out. So I wanted to have the base OS be on the internal (32GB). Having a pet peeve as a first project is good. It could be webcam, speakers, mic, or touchpad. At least my wifi (intel 7265) works!
<Habbie>
nice!
<Habbie>
my chromebook haiku also has no webcam, speakers, mic, touchpad, touchscreen
<Habbie>
debian on the same thing has the touch things at least, but no speakers as well
<meleager>
Yes, I'm working in parallel with a lubuntu image and configured kernel, I got external audio to work and even the headset jack. But still no speakers and mic. The chromebook kitchen cooks things very strangely, and this device is EOL for several years.
<meleager>
Is there a writeup somewhere for a quick iteration cycle for driver developers? Currently I build the whole image and dd to another drive, then reboot (and haiku loader needs manual intervention).
<Habbie>
that is what i did
<Habbie>
but i already had that workflow because my first bigger problem was in fact the loader
<Habbie>
getting a usb3 instead of a usb2 did improve that cycle a lot
<Habbie>
as for drivers, i believe it can be better, but i haven't looked into it
<Habbie>
my intel_extreme fixes did not take many iterations
<meleager>
it looks like i could just mount the other image and copy over fresh pieces from rebuild, before reboot. is it likely to work?
<Habbie>
yeah i'd say so
<Habbie>
the rebuild is about 6-8 minutes here (including making an image), the dd is 3 seconds
<Habbie>
but if you can rebuild just the driver, that plus the copy should be less than a minute i think
<Habbie>
and then the reboot altogether is of course another minute
<Habbie>
what's your manual intervention for the loader?
<meleager>
btw my external FHD monitor and laptop screen are both working well today with 16-bit depth, so I am satisfied.
<Habbie>
not bad
<meleager>
For the loader, you have to tap the space bar repeatedly to get it to stop for a menu, then choose the new image. grub has a way to tell that before the reboot.
<meleager>
"681574400 bytes (682 MB, 650 MiB) copied, 65.8629 s, 10.3 MB/s" is from my SD card to my thumb drive
<Habbie>
yeah. usb3 is awesome
<Habbie>
highly recommend it
<Habbie>
i don't interact with the haiku loader now, but i do need to pick the right thing in grub
<meleager>
does grub load and boot haiku kernel directly?
<Habbie>
i don't use UEFI, just old style stuff, so grub has, if i'm saying this right, a partition and chainload +1
<meleager>
aha, i see
<Habbie>
i like making poor choices for educational value
<Habbie>
:)
<meleager>
lol it sounds a lot like me. i call it "underdogging". trying the paths nobody else will take, which are often broken.
<Habbie>
yep
<Habbie>
waddlesplash wrote me a bootloader patch which renders to a framebuffer because the mrchromebox legacy bios somehow hates text in my specific situation
<Habbie>
that same legacy bios has an incomplete resolution list (for vesa) which is why i had to fix intel_extreme
<meleager>
and that is how we end up having a useful detour
<Habbie>
(or tinker with the haiku bios patcher for vesa resolutions, but i haven't tried that)
<Habbie>
i also locally have a patch that i think makes it recognise the intel HD audio thing, but that does not yield actual sound yet
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<Habbie>
there's a bunch of blobs for Linux that presumably make sound work, i'll have to try that some day, and if it works, figure out how to port that to Haiku
<Habbie>
as for touch, i'm pretty sure the problem is that the i2c buses on some intel chip aren't working right in Haiku
<meleager>
linux sound is rather messed up, and overlay layered. using hdmi out for now is enough for me.
<meleager>
yes, it's actually the smi i2c bus and i will likely be looking into that next. i2c is a very useful protocol and the drivers are often pretty bad.
<meleager>
it doesn't have the same appeal, since i have about 12 nice mice.
<FreeFull>
Oh hey, Haiku has updated rustc now
<meleager>
well i'm off to next avenger. cu soon.
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<Habbie>
hdmi out for audio is a nice idea
<Habbie>
i also have a good mouse
<Habbie>
(i know Meleager left)
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<whitepaperkat>
good after noon
<Habbie>
it is, indeed, after noon hree
<Habbie>
*here
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<cassettehead>
how is intel 3d gpu support, like cpu built in intel