ChanServ changed the topic of #aarch64-laptops to: Linux support for AArch64 Laptops (Chrome OS Trogdor Devices - Asus NovaGo TP370QL - HP Envy x2 - Lenovo Mixx 630 - Lenovo Yoga C630 - Lenovo ThinkPad X13s - and various other snapdragon laptops) - https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/aarch64-laptops
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<valpackett>
gwolf: steveej[m]: type-c has 4 superspeed lanes. with a typical hub if you plug in HDMI/DP, only 2 lanes will be switched to DP alt mode, while 2 other lanes stay around for USB3. actually on qcom laptops we only support the full 4 lane mode with a patch that still isn't upstream
<JensGlathe[m]>
My testing says it supports both
<valpackett>
JensGlathe[m]: you have applied the patch and commented on it on the mailing list :)
<valpackett>
hmm with the ath12k cpu% fix it's.. only fixed until suspend-resume?? 0.o
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<HarrisonV>
I want to get the x1p4100 surface pro 12 inch gen 1 going, furthest Ive gotten into booting was one of the jglathe images for x1p, from the stuff I have seen, I have to build a .dts file for this specific laptop, compile it, and set it as the override, I also probably need to find the device drivers from the windows side of things. Is this something that can be grokked in like a week of crunching, or should I just retur
<JensGlathe[m]>
Is it a nice device? Then maybe worth it. A week sounds wild. Can you put the acpi dump and hwinfo64 log up to github aarch64-laptops/build? From Windows, that would help to guess a device tree.
<JensGlathe[m]>
Although Microsoft devices are the deviating kind
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<steev>
The windows drivers won't help much (but the firmware would); linux uses its own kernel and doesn't use the drivers from windows. you can grok it in a week... whether you can know enough to write it... i dunno about a week
<steev>
at least they were willing to give it a week and not giving up the second linux didn't work :)
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<JensGlathe[m]>
UFS device
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<jdb[m]>
HarrisonV: you should have a look at this repository, it's about the Surface Pro 11
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<JensGlathe[m]>
I have an odd behavior on my X13s with BIOS 1.63 regarding USB1 port (nearer to screen) and a type-C display. When booted with it plugged in, the display comes up with it (good), with whatever lanes mode the dtb allows.
<JensGlathe[m]>
If I unplug the display, it will lock up the GUI. You can still ssh into it, if you have a network connection. GUI stays locked.
<JensGlathe[m]>
This is with Ubuntu 25.04, and apparently irrespective of kernel version.
<JensGlathe[m]>
steveej tested against BIOS 1.61, also with type-c display, and it doesn't freeze/lock up.
<JensGlathe[m]>
Mind, all this works without hassle on USB0. Quite odd.
<JensGlathe[m]>
If you plug the display on USB1 later, you get only data, no screen. But it thinks it has a screen, Gnome sees it (but screen is dark, no signal).
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<Jasper[m]>
@konradybcio another one
<steev>
dj konrad?
<Jasper[m]>
DEEJAY KON RAD
<konradybcio>
am i missing something
<Jasper[m]>
Usb sillyness w.r.t. modr selection
<JensGlathe[m]>
PITA of the year
<konradybcio>
is that with/without the 4ln patches?
<steev>
the dj thing was a joke because there's a music artist named dj khaled who always says "another one"
<konradybcio>
does it make a difference if they're present?
<JensGlathe[m]>
regardless of it. Tested with 4ln, 2ln, 6.15, 6.10, 6.9.6 (also 4ln, v2 of Neill's patch)
<JensGlathe[m]>
6.10 is trusted to be free of any dp shenanigans
<konradybcio>
does it manifest on windows in any way? did lenovo say anything about display in the changelogs?
<JensGlathe[m]>
changelogs?
<konradybcio>
bios changelogs
<konradybcio>
they publish those on the downloads website
<steev>
yeah... i don't have a spare 533 lying around :D
<steev>
booted with it plugged in and i get display
<JensGlathe[m]>
nah mine is 2792, a bit cheaper
<JensGlathe[m]>
dare to unplug?
<steev>
i can't seem to reproduce it here at all with mine, so maybe it's a 2K+ thing?
<steev>
i got my monitor specifically because portable and because i wanted it to be the same size as the built-in
<steev>
though fun fact, usb0 seems to throw make it be on the left, and usb1 make it show up on the right
<JensGlathe[m]>
probable. Can do the same with 4k, could try 1920x1080 with adapter
<steev>
this is with gnome 48
<JensGlathe[m]>
thats just remembered position
<JensGlathe[m]>
samew
<steev>
weird, i've always said it's on the left
<steev>
because it always is :D
<JensGlathe[m]>
Thanks for testing!
<JensGlathe[m]>
will do the 1920x1080 counter test
<dgilmore>
And I just broke the LCD in my t14s
<Jasper[m]>
ouch
<Jasper[m]>
What happened?
<dgilmore>
I accidently dropped a keyboard on it
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<steev>
oh no :(
<steev>
that's what i fear with my tide65 because this thing is a tank
<dgilmore>
lets see how quickly it can be fixed
<steev>
heavier than all of the laptops i carry around heh
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<angeloverlain[m]>
Hello everyone. I was considering getting a surface laptop 7th edition for linux but learnt that some features don’t work yet. if someone could maybe briefly want to talk about the missing pieces it would be amazing for a regular linux user like me. particularly scary was that speakers may irreversibly get damaged if you use too much volume but don’t know if that’s true.
<angeloverlain[m]>
I was willing to learn more about battery life (especially when asleep) and other features like camera or any others that don’t work as well for linux
<angeloverlain[m]>
Im just looking for a new, sleek and somewhat faster laptop so I figured this could work
<angeloverlain[m]>
i was told I could ask here but feel free to not mind me
<steev>
bamse: so, i suppose the good news with the c630 being kaput, is that i can focus on the flex5g :D
<steev>
i have no experience with the surface 7 :(
<steev>
er, 7th edition (or any edition really)
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<angeloverlain[m]>
[steev](https://matrix.to/#/@_oftc_steev:matrix.org): I kind of just thought it would be similar to other x 1 elite laptops and they seem to be talked about sometimes here
<steev>
could be :) i just have no experience, but someone else was asking about one the other day
<steev>
could try the logs of the channel from a few days back
<angeloverlain[m]>
oh okay let me check. thanks :)
<bamse>
steev: i still haven't figured out the bug on sc8180x which prevents it to boot some fraction of the time
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<JensGlathe[m]>
steev: plugged the x13s in with an adapter to the 4k display, getting instatly 4k@60, 4 lanes on usb1. no reboot. 🤨
<JensGlathe[m]>
And no it doesn't reboot or hang
<steev>
even weirder?
<JensGlathe[m]>
Picky Display ™️ disease
<JensGlathe[m]>
booted with usb1 plugged in, stable as rock
<JensGlathe[m]>
I feel having had by hardware
<steev>
having worked at a place where we had to deal with numerous edid that lied.... it wouldn't shock me
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<steev>
bamse: do you know if > 6.11 still fails to synchronize thermal read?
<steev>
on the ath10k
<kuruczgy[m]>
bryanodonoghue: do you have a camera branch on top of 6.16-rc1? The one on top of 6.15-rc1 no longer rebases cleanly, it seems some stuff is already in upstream.
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<steev>
huh
<steev>
well, now the flex5g is in a power on loop
<steev>
even holding the power button won't power it off
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<oxbar>
Dam I thought it was for Linux on Mac’s
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<HdkR>
What
<HdkR>
Macs, not an AArch64 laptop, confirmed today.
<anthony25>
to be fair, if they were looking for asahi, it's better to join asahi channels directly ;p
<steev>
but they don't seem to have ended up in asahi :(
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<HdkR>
womp womp
<Jasper[m]>
<HdkR> "Macs, not an AArch64 laptop..." <- MS and Qcom devkit BANNED
<Jasper[m]>
ECS shoebox? BANNED
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<HdkR>
It's only fair. If I can't talk about my M4 Pro Mac Mini then no one gets fun.
<Jasper[m]>
I am slowly understanding the HdkR hate Markov Chain dudes in the Nouveau channel now /s
<HdkR>
haha :D
<HdkR>
It's just like in a MMO Boss, I'm a tank and I need to pull aggro
<Jasper[m]>
Full of 🎉
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<Tammieyem[m]>
Does anyone have suspend udev rules for their Thinkpad X13s laptop? as in, try to get the device to consume as little power as possible. the cpu is never halted right?
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<craftyguy>
I would be happy if my x13s could suspend(s2idle)/resume successfully 🙃