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<Kangie>
Just wanted to drop in and express how impressed I am with hardware support on the M2, just got my 2023 15" Air up and running and that's been pretty fantastic
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<WoC>
is there some way to download a iso or installation image, or even a live image ? For the M4 Pro
<WoC>
experimental or otherwise
<chaos_princess>
no
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<WoC>
is thgere a way to create such a thing ?
<chaos_princess>
yes, how good are you with hardware reverse engineering?
<WoC>
heh, good point
<WoC>
for M1/M2/etc ? any of those ?
<chaos_princess>
m1/m2 can be installed from an iso, but not fedora, i think void has an iso.
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<chaos_princess>
but you still need to run the first step via the installer, that bit is mandatory
<WoC>
ok, any suggestions where i could download that ?
<chaos_princess>
there is no capability to boot from "an iso" on this platform, you need to run the installer to make it possible
<chaos_princess>
what are you trying to do?
<WoC>
i was thinking more towards a usb-stick with the iso dd'ed to it
<chaos_princess>
well, same thing, platform firmware has no idea what to do with one, so need the installer to install efi boot support
<WoC>
but if the iso isn't bootable, that would not help
<chaos_princess>
why do you need it to be specifically a bootable usb?
<WoC>
does the iso have a kernel ?
<WoC>
because the installer can't be used
<chaos_princess>
why
<WoC>
refusesd to run
<chaos_princess>
with what error?
<WoC>
unsupported device or something
<chaos_princess>
well, duh. it is an unsupported device and you will not be able to install asahi on one. Please stop trying to find a workaround, there isn't one
<WoC>
atcually just wanted to see how it would look like
<WoC>
but with an iso, i could probably hand jam a bootable usb-stick, using uefi
<WoC>
assuming there is a kernel on the iso
<chaos_princess>
in case it was not clear from my previous messages, there is no uefi on those machines. it does not exist. The first thing that the installer does is install uefi support.
<WoC>
oh, using the traditional mac boot partition, sort of like the g5's and similar, a stub ?
<chaos_princess>
something like that, yes
<WoC>
I see, thanks, i presume there is a dt file involved too, like u-boot ?
<chaos_princess>
yes, custom bootloader that loads u-boot, that provides uefi
<WoC>
oh, so not a clean uefi
<chaos_princess>
pretty much. good enough for systemd-boot/grub/efistub, but not a full implementation
<WoC>
appreciated, at least now i have a better idea of the vast work ahead
<WoC>
Looks like it will take quite some years
<chaos_princess>
maybe, maybe not. m4 is generally very annoying + has firmware bugs, m3 is closer
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<WoC>
so in that sense, both m4 and m4 pro would be the same ?
<chaos_princess>
looks like it
<WoC>
Thanks for taking the time to explainb, vervy much appreciated\
<WoC>
Thanks for taking the time to explain, vervy much appreciated. Have a great weekend
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