ChanServ changed the topic of #aarch64-laptops to: Linux support for AArch64 Laptops (Chrome OS Trogdor Devices - Asus NovaGo TP370QL - HP Envy x2 - Lenovo Mixx 630 - Lenovo Yoga C630 - Lenovo ThinkPad X13s - and various other snapdragon laptops) - https://oftc.irclog.whitequark.org/aarch64-laptops
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<steev>
jhovold: it seems on my t14s, snd-soc-wcd938x-sdw loads, but for some reason snd-soc-wcd938x itself does not, manually running modprobe on just that module, fixes it
<steev>
there are no sound modules in the initramfs
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<chloex3>
is it normal for no videos in firefox to play with the default video player? XD
<steev>
i have no idea if those shader errors are important or not
<chloex3>
i fixed it :D
<chloex3>
i installed `libavcodec-freeworld` from rpm fusion
<chloex3>
videos seem to work fine now
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<steev>
oh nice
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<JensGlathe[m]>
Hmm interesting. Just had ath12k bt crashing on resume. Everything worked (what is actually nice) except bt after a longer (for the night) closed-lid suspend. https://pastebin.com/t4Ys0WEK
<JensGlathe[m]>
Re-enabling bt brought it up again, though
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<JensGlathe[m]>
Ugh that privacy shutter on the TB16 camera switches off the "active" light but not the camera 😂 Had it half-closed, active light off, but still most of the picture
<JensGlathe[m]>
and Cheese should run amok if the camera device actually disappears
<jhovold>
steev: ok, so it's a dependency of the driver you first said did not probe that also has not probed
<jhovold>
soundwire is "special", and so is the qcom sound implementation, so not surprised that we have been relying on luck for things to have probed in time so far
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<Jasper[m]>
@jhovold on 6.15.3 (not 6.14) pipewire seems to work better now. No weird artifacting or slowdowns/speedups anymore.
<Jasper[m]>
3.5mm jack seems to work comparably to pulse now. It'll still mess up sound a bit above 40% volume
<Jasper[m]>
but it's a LOT more usable
<Jasper[m]>
(under 40% volume I mean, artifacting and signal loss on channels start at 40%)
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<anthony25>
mani_s: thanks a lot, it seems to work! (I'll test it for a bit longer)
<anthony25>
power consumption seems to be more stable while in idle, which is good news
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<jhovold>
Jasper[m]: yeah, the pipewire issues where fixed in 6.15-rc1, pw was practically unusable before that
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<erebion>
Any wifi regression on 6.12 on the X13s on Debian? Occasionally stops working, seems to be something that recently started. Is that a known issue?
<erebion>
[175934.091289] wlP6p1s0: authentication with xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx timed out
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<void09>
Hi. Is there no wiki about chip/laptop hardware support ?
<void09>
I'm looking at a Asus Vivobook S1607QA with x126100, ~375 EUR, used, like new
<void09>
I've been yearning for a decent arm lapop for a while now :\
<jhovold>
erebion: maybe a bad backport, haven't noticed or heard of any such issues with mainline
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<jhovold>
void09: I'm afraid not. I maintain a wiki for the x13s and t14s, the latter of which gives you an idea of where things stand with x1e generally
<jhovold>
(even if dt patches to enable features may still be missing in mainline for other x1e machines)
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<void09>
what distributions are recommended for this ? debian/ubuntu ?
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<albsen[m]>
void09: ubuntu maintains a nicely installable concept iso. best laptop for xelite at the moment is the t14s 32gb (none oled); best arm laptop to use is likely the x13s thinkpad 32gb ram (my personal preference); its recommended to keep windows on a partition for updates
<void09>
firmware updates?
<jhovold>
with support in mainline, any distro should work (e.g. given recent enough linux-firmware)
<void09>
uefi
<jhovold>
there are very few user space dependencies (also listed in the wiki)
<void09>
ideally i'd want a 32gb but 14" is too small for me, 16" 16:10 is ideal. also oled would be ideal.
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<JensGlathe[m]>
@void09 Thinkbook 16 G7 QOY, well supported.
<JensGlathe[m]>
Haven‘t had my hands on the Vivobook S16 yet.
<jdb[m]>
> the t14s, which gives you an idea of where things stand with x1e generally
<jdb[m]>
jhovold: what's missing for hibernation support, out of curiosity?
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<deathmist>
alexVinarskis[m]: have you tried https://github.com/TravMurav/slbounce (and sltest) on your Vivobook? seems to just fail for my so no QEMU/KVM for me :/
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<deathmist>
hm seems you had a zenbook instead, maybe still interesting to know regardless.. SpieringsAE and icecream95 aren't here unfortunately rn
<albsen[m]>
I really need to try this on the t14s as well. apparently the 64gb ram issues aren't on EL2
<JensGlathe[m]>
There is a kernel parameter you need for x1e / x1p
<\[m]>
I got the ideapad finally - it's myes ok for the money 😆
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<deathmist>
JensGlathe[m]: I'm just talking about the lack of a green line with sltest, I didn't yet even bother with proceeding to trying slbounce proper due to this but maybe I should
<\[m]>
Jens Glathe I need to just put the dtb in /boot and add devicetree=x1p42100-lenovo-ideapad-slim5x.dtb right ?
<alexVinarskis[m]>
Yes i only have Zenbook and XPS. Did not try sltest yet, kind of slipped away. Will try to give it a shot this week
<deathmist>
6.16 gives you the -el2 dtbs by default which is nice
<albsen[m]>
is there any guide or post I can follow how grub should be configured to boot into EL2?
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<steev>
erebion: which 6.12 kernel
<steev>
ukleinek: the lpass-wsa-macro module is already loaded
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<steev>
ukleinek: in comparing when audio works, versus doesn't, the modules i have loaded when using modules-load.d/snd-soc-wcd938x.conf are snd_soc_qcom_common, snd_soc_qcom_sdw, snd_soc_wcd938x, snd_soc_wcd_classh, snd_soc_wcd_mbhc and snd_soc_x1e80100
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<\[m]>
oh the dtb is in next ubuntu concept 😲 w00t
<bylaws>
I recently updated my kernel and Mesa and now cef/electron apps seem to render incredibly slowly
<bylaws>
Is this something known
<bylaws>
On the t14s, for jhovold 6.16 rc6
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<JensGlathe[m]>
<\[m]> "Jens Glathe I need to just put..." <- yes, sort of. You're booting Ubuntu 25.04?
<JensGlathe[m]>
otoh there's an image on my google drive that boots to preinstalled desktop
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<robclark>
bylaws: haven't had a problem with vscode.. but recent chromium is broken (corrupted rendering).. the workaround is:
<JensGlathe[m]>
you need: decrypted Windows drive (yes, you need to enaböe and the disable bitlocker)
<JensGlathe[m]>
disabled secureboot (afterwards)
<\[m]>
I saw int he thread and found the iso yes - tx
<\[m]>
it takes forever to flash though
<JensGlathe[m]>
with what writer
<JensGlathe[m]>
disks is what I use
<\[m]>
I think it's btw in /EFI but not sure if to reference with /<dtbname> or /EFI/<dtbname>
<\[m]>
I used etcher on mac os
<JensGlathe[m]>
argh
<JensGlathe[m]>
rufus works, disks works, etcher no idea, but issues were reported. This is a raw image xz compressed
<Douloureux[m]>
has anyone tried gentoo on x1e?
<Douloureux[m]>
in theory you could use the Ubuntu ISO to install it right
<steev>
in theory, yeah, should be doable
<Douloureux[m]>
I want to try gentoo because it makes custom kernels easier
<steev>
i haven't done it but i dunno if there are any gentoo peeps hanging out here. i keep trying to get nerdboy to come hang out but he insists on staying over on libera
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<deathmist>
Douloureux[m]: definitely doable, it's basically what I've done with Chimera Linux (https://gist.github.com/JamiKettunen/7c2a25688976c09af819eebc9fbb8396) currently until a few Limine bugs for live ISO are solved and I upstream necessary bits to the linux-stable kernel after 6.16 is properly out
<steev>
x13s has a bios update, addresses some firmware issues (also potentially a new adsp firmware? that addresses battery drain when using a usb-c monitor)
<JensGlathe[m]>
nice
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<Jasper[m]>
I need to update
<Jasper[m]>
It's been while
<Jasper[m]>
*a while
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<JensGlathe[m]>
just did
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<jdb[m]>
I finally got around to hack and enable some debug messages to get both the OUI and Device ID on the Surface Pro 11:
<\[m]>
I think it does boot actually but the output rolls too fast , then black screen
<JensGlathe[m]>
And does it reboot?
<\[m]>
now it doesn't reboot
<\[m]>
just try a couple of times?
<\[m]>
it's the oled variant
<JensGlathe[m]>
usually it should boot, come up until gui, reboot (after fetching the firmwares from Windows), come up to gui with personalization settings
<\[m]>
oh
<\[m]>
Ubuntu_Desktop_24.10_Lenovo_Ideapad_Slim_5x.img < this one I have
<\[m]>
no gui so far
<\[m]>
that's neat though
<JensGlathe[m]>
argh I guess
<JensGlathe[m]>
Currently testing the Ideapad 5 2in1 image, I'm afraid the one on Google drive has an older dtb. We iterated a few times until we had a nice-ish one
<JensGlathe[m]>
and you have the older one on the image
<\[m]>
I should figure out how to build an iso on mac os that's bootable I guess 😆
<\[m]>
those grub options are all needed still?
<d0pefish>
jdb[m]: excellent, thank you, I see your reply on github too. :) That leaves rfkill as the only 'hack' I believe!
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<d0pefish>
I guess we can start a 'for-next-v2' branch as we implement changes in response to feedback
<\[m]>
but the keyboard has for some reason the \ key glued against the enter, at the normal distance you tap \
<\[m]>
it's extremely annoying - I don't know if I'm going to get over that
<JensGlathe[m]>
My current view, testing the 2in1 image
<\[m]>
hahaha exactly mine too 30sec ago
<\[m]>
it's # on your keyboard - did you have trouble adapting to that
<JensGlathe[m]>
I have a ThinkBook 16, and its not happy with my image
<JensGlathe[m]>
I use it to test x1p42 images as far as its possible
<JensGlathe[m]>
It has a keyboard with a numbers block (16"), also a bit odd
<JensGlathe[m]>
aaah I know what happened
<JensGlathe[m]>
should get off these dedicated images, they are haram
<\[m]>
I can test a bit for you if you need but I'm not made up yet if I'll send it back with this keyboard enter key so far to the right
<\[m]>
it's nice and bright though 😆
<JensGlathe[m]>
OLED screen, yeah
<JensGlathe[m]>
thats a big plus
<JensGlathe[m]>
There are already a few with the slim5x up, and 2 or 3 I know with the 2in1 up (one on el2)
<\[m]>
no brightness control yet - is that dts related?
<\[m]>
ah no it might be fw
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<JensGlathe[m]>
brightness control should actually work, that was a bit of iteration, but this OLED display does it with dp aux channel
<\[m]>
so now dd the usb to a partition yeah?
<JensGlathe[m]>
cautious.
<JensGlathe[m]>
its 2 partitions. One EFI, one ext4
<JensGlathe[m]>
on my repo you should find a how-to in the discussions
<JensGlathe[m]>
you only want the ext4, the rest is an install dance
<JensGlathe[m]>
with grub-install to set the efi boot variable, booting from the external disk
<JensGlathe[m]>
and then moving this over to internal EFI with mount and another grub-install
<\[m]>
let's dance lol
<\[m]>
maybe it needs still the reboot for that brightness control
<\[m]>
ok thanks a lot man 😲
<JensGlathe[m]>
have fun
<JensGlathe[m]>
what did you pay
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<\[m]>
800 euro 😲
<\[m]>
I mean maybe I'll just get used to it
<JensGlathe[m]>
32GB?
<\[m]>
yeah
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<JensGlathe[m]>
Then ist a really fair price IMO
<jdb[m]>
d0pefish: let's wait to get some feedback on all / most of the other patches first
<\[m]>
but if it's going to be heating up like the macbook air .. I'll continue tomorrow, I want to install tiny win11 even if it's risky
<\[m]>
85GB wtf is this bloatware
<JensGlathe[m]>
they want 870 or so here, directly from lenovo
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<\[m]>
oh it broke the dtb on apt upgrade seems 😆
<\[m]>
for 32GB oled screen new laptop that's proper even if it has some downsides
<JensGlathe[m]>
I paid 800 for the tb16 non-oled
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<\[m]>
yeah I'm not the oled convinced yet, we; ll see
<\[m]>
brightness control still not working mm
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<\[m]>
in theory I can get your grub options and the dtb and build my own right? esp. now I can boot in aarch64 linux
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<\[m]>
it's amazing work rly, thanks so much
<\[m]>
do you want me to report iny our github issue?
<JensGlathe[m]>
yes, that would be cool
<JensGlathe[m]>
a dmesg, too, and hwinfo64 log from Windows.
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<\[m]>
120hz external screen it's like 55inch 😲 that's insane
<\[m]>
no lag
<\[m]>
I already took a hwinfo hehe I'll post it tomorrow together with my logs
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<JensGlathe[m]>
4 lanes rock
<JensGlathe[m]>
that keyboard is sort of a letdown for that hardware, at least a getting used to
<\[m]>
bluetooth works, backlight too
<\[m]>
the 4 lanes is not upstream yet right - it does totally fckng rock waw
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<\[m]>
in theory you could replace the enter and other key, they share the same hole
<\[m]>
not going to pop off the keys yet, maybe I'll just get used
<JensGlathe[m]>
no, 4 lanes is not upstream. But it works well, also thanks to alexVinarskis
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<\[m]>
yeah I read history, checked the commits and was like ok wtf it's not even that much extra code but you have to know what you're doing 😲
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<tobhe[m]>
\: I'll try to fix your bug for the next iso. was planning to build a new one tomorrow anyway
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<\[m]>
cool thanks 🙂
<\[m]>
it's probably small
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<jdb[m]>
tobhe @th:stusta.de: you should be able to add support for the Surface Pro 11 soon, hopefully
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<steev>
tobhe[m]: was there some change to flash-kernel? it doesn't seem to copy the dtbs over anymore, saying "System running in EFI mode, skipping"
<steev>
so e.g. i just got the 6.16 kernel update on the t14s, but it didn't copy any of the dtbs or make the symlinks (i haven't bothered rebooting, and i can just copy the file(s) over myself and re-run update-grub and it will then add the devicetree entries, but figured i'd mention it if it isn't known
<alexVinarskis[m]>
is it a t14? There was a rename of DTs to support OLED iirc, perhaps related?
<tobhe[m]>
guess we need to update the DB with the (LCD) and (OLED) strings
<alexVinarskis[m]>
and perhaps keep the fallback to old one?
<tobhe[m]>
ack. just need two new entries
<tobhe[m]>
eventually I want a nice way to migrate OLED users with existing installations to the correct one
<steev>
ahhh, yeah that might explain it :D
<tobhe[m]>
flash-kernel using the model as key is kind of a crime anyway
<deathmist>
jdb[m]: neat! would you mind running a script to add support into dtbloader for SP11? it's missing hwids for some already pretty well supported devices in general still which I made a tracking issue for on the repo