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05:44 <eric_engestrom> dcbaker: no need to split things out, I'll merge !37490 today, unless I misunderstood something (see the reply to your comment I just posted)

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07:05 <mareko> simon-perretta-img: yes

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07:49 <simon-perretta-img> marko: Ty, opened !37540

07:49 <simon-perretta-img> *mareko

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07:57 <glehmann> why does pco use io variables?

07:57 <glehmann> usually backends want lowered io

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08:35 <simon-perretta-img> glehmann: It does use lowered io, the vars just happened to be a convenient interface to {re,ab,}use to feedback the io info to the driver

08:36 <simon-perretta-img> I do have plans to change it, but it's a very early design decision from before I was super familiar with how other vendors handled it, that ended up sticking around longer than expected

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10:20 <mareko> no driver is fully using lowered IO, the minimum possible amount of unlowered IO is used by radeonsi+glsl, one NIR lowering pass is missing to stop using nir_lower_io_vars_to_temporaries

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10:54 <glehmann> what do you mean? I guess most drivers do some optimizations on io variables, but after they are lowered I don't think radv interacts with them at all?

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10:55 <glehmann> things like flat/pre primitive masks are gathered from io intrinsics, not variables

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11:12 <mareko> radv uses these, but glsl doesn't: nir_compact_varyings, nir_remove_unused_varyings, nir_link_xfb_varyings, nir_link_opt_varyings, nir_lower_io_vars_to_temporaries (glsl only uses this for outputs, and that will be removed next)

11:19 <mareko> optimizations on IO vars are redundant; NIR can only lower these in the IO variable representation: indirect outputs, outputs reads, and moving output stores to the end (e.g. out of control flow)

11:20 <mareko> once NIR can lower those in the lowered IO representation, we can stop using nir_lower_io_vars_to_temporaries and the subsequent cleanup passes

11:21 <mareko> shaders will compile faster as a result

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12:32 <Venemo> mareko, glehmann: I have a MR for that, but the main issue is that we get stats regressions by removing the old linking passes. last I checked the blocker was that one of the new passes requires all lowered outputs to be scalarized, but then the revectorization pass couldn't handle "holes" so it was overall a stats regression. I plan to revisit that soonish, but I have my hands full with other stuff at the moment

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12:42 <crowen> Hello! I am running into a mesa git build problem that appears on x86_64 on fedora 42 and 43 since very recently.

12:42 <crowen> https://download.copr.fedorainfracloud.org/results/che/mesa/fedora-43-x86_64/09597134-mesa/builder-live.log.gz

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12:45 <MrCooper> crowen: "404 Not Found"

12:45 <crowen> wait i will actually put it on a pastebin :)

12:46 <crowen> MrCooper, https://paste.centos.org/view/10cce007

12:47 <crowen> I guess pco/pco_common.h is generated by the python script

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13:06 <simon-perretta-img> crowen: I can take a look, probably missed a dependency somewhere oops

13:06 <crowen> simon-perretta-img, thank you so much! really appreciate it!

13:06 <crowen> simon-perretta-img, on i686 the build worked if that helps eventually

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13:18 <mareko> Venemo: if that was just more TCS stores, then that's changed since TCS stores now always execute vec4 stores

13:19 <Venemo> mareko: I don't recall the details anymore, but I'll get back to you when I managed to revisit it

13:21 <mareko> all other shaders use either single-dword memory stores or LDS where holes in outputs don't matter

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13:32 <simon-perretta-img> crowen: no worries! Would you be able to apply and test a patch? https://paste.centos.org/view/dc1ba29b

13:33 <crowen> sure

13:33 <crowen> let me do a test build

13:35 <crowen> simon-perretta-img, please bear with me... build will take ~30 mins

13:35 <simon-perretta-img> Sure thing

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14:06 <crowen> simon-perretta-img, aarch64 succeeded now... failed before aswell

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14:17 <simon-perretta-img> crowen: Glad to hear it! If/when x86_64 is sorted too just give me a shout and I'll prep an MR

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14:17 <crowen> simon-perretta-img, still building. will do!

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14:30 <crowen> simon-perretta-img, fedora 41/42/43 on i686/aarch64/x86_64 build successfully with the patch and git master branch

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14:30 <crowen> simon-perretta-img, thank you so much!

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14:32 <simon-perretta-img> crowen: Awesome, thank _you_ for reporting and testing!

14:32 <crowen> simon-perretta-img, thank you for fixing things so fast!

14:33 <crowen> simon-perretta-img, really appreciated!

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14:59 <dcbaker> eric_engestrom: thanks!

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15:35 <alyssa> eric_engestrom: it would be great if the meson missingdep check ran automatically as part of builds

15:35 <alyssa> so we catch issues locally on dev machines before CI ever sees them (and fails a pipeline over)

15:36 <alyssa> but maybe that's not possible due to meson architecture?

15:36 <alyssa> dcbaker: ^

15:37 <dcbaker> I've been thinking about adding a depcheck to the meson test automatically as part of Meson itself...

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15:39 <alyssa> would be cool :]

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15:50 <eric_engestrom> :)

15:50 <eric_engestrom> (agreed with everything)

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18:12 <Venemo> mareko: as far as I remember the issue was with VS inputs, but I'd have to look again to be sure

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