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<Swung0x48> (also i dunno if this is the right place to ask for review)
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<airlied> mlankhorst: finally, reposted
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<tzimmermann> jfalempe, hi! if you have a few minutes, could you please review the ast patchset at https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/series/153350/ ?
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<jfalempe> tzimmermann: sure, this is on my todo list for today ;)
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<tzimmermann> thanks for reviewing
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<phasta> If a patch intended for drm-misc-fixes was accidentally applied to drm-misc-next, what should one do about it?
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<glehmann> does !nir_block::divergent mean all invocations are active in this block in a compute shader?
<glehmann> for if/else it should be if the description is correct, but I'm not sure about loops
<glehmann> if there is a divergent break/continue, I mean
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<jnoorman> glehmann: if I interpret nir_divergence_analysis correctly, a divergent break/continue will mark the loop as divergent. a simple test shader seems to confirm this as well.
<jnoorman> though I guess !nir_block::divergent might also mean that _no_ invocations are active.
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<phasta> sima: mripard: https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20250901124032.1955-1-pierre-eric.pelloux-prayer@amd.com/ that one should have been pushed to drm-misc-fixes (is now on drm-misc-next instead). Can I just push it additionally to drm-misc-fixes?
<mripard> b2b8af21fec3 ?
<phasta> mripard: yes
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<mripard> phasta: done
<phasta> mripard: thx!
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<sima> phasta, yeah it's better to let maintainers do the cherry-pick so it's correctly tagged and doesn't confuse stable backporters
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<zmike> feels like by your own reasoning I should be able to merge this without any review at this point
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<zmike> jenatali maybe
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<jenatali> Ack
<zmike> ty
<jenatali> My management apparently took some interest in llvmpipe vs WARP perf so I might actually have to figure out how to compare those soon
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<zmike> uh oh
<zmike> WARP: I'm in danger
<jenatali> Heh I dunno tbh
<zmike> will be interesting to see the results for sure
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<jenatali> Yeah, just need to figure out how to make it roughly apples to apples
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<jenatali> Suggestions welcome
<zmike> well
<zmike> if I can promote a longstanding pain point of GL
<zmike> apitrace replay has insane overhead because the retrace program is very inefficient, but if apitrace could output the trace into compile-able c/c++ then it could be run directly
<zmike> which would be incredible for performance testing/benchmarking
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<danylo> Btw, if benchmarking Mesa vs Mesa, almost everything needed for benchmarking is achieved by dumping u_trace perf data and comparing it. Though not applicable for Mesa vs non-Mesa drivers...
<jenatali> Yeah llvmpipe only supports GL/VK natively (AFAIK though maybe I could get d3d10umd to work?) and WARP only does D3D natively so there would need to be a mapping layer of some kind in the way
<zmike> dxvk ?
<jenatali> But there's so many aspects of perf that unless I'm testing for overhead in high call pattern cases then maybe it would be fine
<jenatali> Yeah DXVK or GLOn12 or something
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<glehmann> great, looks like nir now has three structs to specify subgroup size
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<glehmann> nir_lower_subgroups_options::subgroup_size is the sane but annoying one (because it's only local)
<glehmann> nir_shader_compiler_options::subgroup_size is kind of useless because options are meant to be immutable across the compilation process, but subgroup size isn't for all backend
<glehmann> it also only exists to work around gl frontend memes afaict, so it probably shouldn't have been merged in the first place
<glehmann> and what the hell even is shader_info::subgroup_size, and how does it work if it's not serialized/deserialized
<jenatali> Oof
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<Company> with my limited testing with GTK, WARP was a lot worse than llvmpipe
<Company> not as bad as the Google software renderer, but definitely enough to warrant "I'm in danger" memes
<Company> though warp is a lot nicer for debugging
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<jenatali> GTK = through GLOn12? or D3D native?
<jenatali> I'm aware that WARP's D3D12 paths are... suboptimal, compared to how it works through 11
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<alyssa> glehmann: sorry. in my defence it was my last day O:)
<rodrigovivi> dim push is now giving me this: "Branch setup for the integration repo is borked"... I believe after drm-rust setup... anyone knows a quick fix?
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<Company> jenatali: D3D12 native
<Company> jenatali: vs GL with llvmpipe (just copying the opengl32.dll over)
<Company> I don't remember if I tried lavapipe, but that would probably be very similar results
<Company> jenatali: did I ever tell you about https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/merge_requests/8520 ?
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<Leftmost> Looked through gitlab labels and didn't see any, but if anyone knows of some NIR/SPIR-V/vtn-related tasks that serve as a good entrypoint to contribution in that area, would much appreciate it.
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