#asahi on 2025-07-29 — irc logs at oftc.catirclogs.org

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11:42 <fl0_id> btw, for backups, what I also do for other tools, but would work for time machine too - create a sparse disk image on the external hdd or nas or wherever and then you can use it for other usage, and still have the apfs or whatever stuff

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18:27 <adriano> hello! is this a good place for general questions about an issue? if not, are there any places like that?

18:28 <tpw_rules> sure but it's a bit quiet

18:29 <adriano> im just wondering what binfmt_dispatcher does, since it seems to be causing me some issues with a program im trying to run

18:30 <chaos_princess> what are you trying to run

18:31 <adriano> the CEdev toolchain

18:31 <adriano> the makefile takes the result of the binary cedev-config

18:32 <chaos_princess> try uninstalling binfmt-dispatcher

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18:32 <adriano> cedev-config now segfaults

18:33 <chaos_princess> is it an arm64 app?

18:33 <adriano> no it is not, i did forget about that

18:33 <adriano> might honestly just build it myself

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21:28 <fl0_id> adriano here is in more detail what binfmt_dispatcher does https://github.com/AsahiLinux/binfmt-dispatcher

21:30 <twb> That exists basically in order to insert muvm into the chain only when desirable?

21:31 <twb> Or is it also dealing with fat/universal binaries somehow

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21:40 <fl0_id> there are no fat / universal binaries afaik on linux. however if you actually read through some more, the underlying system is a general think, like f.e. also for pythoin and java code

21:41 <twb> Right but those are already implemented elsewhere

21:42 <twb> Hrm, perhaps that's only on Debian systems

21:44 <twb> At least on x86-64 Debian without binfmt-dispatcher, I have /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/{cli,jar,python3.11,llvm-14-runtime.binfmt,qemu-aarch64,...}

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22:18 <fl0_id> twb tbh I don't get what your remaining question is. Yes as far as I understand it's mainly for x86_64 dispatching. but minus universal binaries, like I have never seen those on linux even though it's prob possible

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22:21 <twb> I was trying to ask what binfmt-dispatcher provide ON TOP OF the existing binfmt-misc which already handles scripts-without-shebangs and VM bytecode files

22:22 <twb> But don't worry about it, I was just curious and it's not worth going aroud in circles

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22:32 <chaos_princess> twb: it is to skip muvm when host already has 4k pages

22:32 <twb> Right, which binfmt-misc cannot express on its own. That's what I thought.

22:33 <twb> (Thanks for confirming)

22:33 <chaos_princess> i think it also can sanely handle the situation when you have both fex and box64 installed, as binfmt_misc does not really handle multiple handlers for the same format that well

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