#asahi on 2025-09-02 — irc logs at oftc.catirclogs.org

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10:48 <rusty_dave> Hello 🙂.

10:48 <rusty_dave> Are Asahi Linux devs here?

10:49 <chaos_princess> are the so-called "asahi linux devs" in the room with us right now?

10:52 <rusty_dave> Hi dev, I am curious how the TB driver is being developed for Asahi Linux MacBooks M1 & M2 Chips?

10:53 <j`ey> how it's being done or are you asking the current status?

10:55 <rusty_dave> Current status, my friend

10:55 <chaos_princess> done when it is done

10:56 <rusty_dave> Can I help with something?

10:57 <chaos_princess> are you _capable_ of helping with something?

10:57 <sven> use a x86 machine with tbt and fix any issues you run into with pcie hotplug, especially with complex chains like dock -> dock -> tbt screen -> tbt enclosure

10:59 <rusty_dave> Do you mean an Macbook with Intel from < 2019? Booting there Linux and try to fix every tbt problem I get?

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10:59 <sven> any x86 machine will do

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11:12 <rusty_dave> Is Apple’s tbt host controller already reverse engineered?

11:12 <sven> more or less. if you really want to help take a look at pcie hotplug

11:14 <rusty_dave> I understand your point. So basically play around with Linux tbt driver on x86 machine and see what happens hotplugging on tbt bus/cables?

11:14 <twb> oh tbt is thunderbolt? I kept trying to read that as "target disk"

11:14 <rusty_dave> tbt == thunderbolt //true

11:16 <sven> do you have experience with kernel development? pcie hotplug at least two years ago had quite some issues when you plugged in long chains. x86 relies heavily on boot-time setup but on apple machines everything will be handled as hot plug

11:17 <rusty_dave> I do not have much experience with kernel development

11:18 <twb> sven: does that mean on x86-64, if you have a long chain of thunderbolt components, every time you unplug & replug it, you have to reboot to make it work again?

11:18 <sven> sometimes, yes

11:18 <twb> ouch

11:18 <sven> if you run into the bugs i ran into

11:20 <sven> it really depends on what sets up the pcie bar space, there's also a mode where firmware does most of the work instead of the linux kernel

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20:52 <oxbar> I heard the main dev stepped down ? what does that mean for asahi ?

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21:21 <opticron> oxbar, that's old news and others have stepped up

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22:08 <imnotpoz> hey, hope I set this up correctly this time

22:09 <imnotpoz> I can see my message in the logs, seems like it works :)

22:11 <imnotpoz> not sure if I should ask here or in #asahi-dev - I wanted to toy around with the sep (which afaik I can only do with `/usr/libexec/seputil` on macos)

22:12 <imnotpoz> but running any command throws some error, I'll provide logs

22:12 <imnotpoz> not sure if this is on me or not

22:18 <imnotpoz> here are the logs from a couple of seputil commands https://files.poz.pet/bugs/asahi/2025-09-03_00:18:07.log

22:20 <twb> oxbar: FYI this is the relevant post from that time: https://marcan.st/2025/02/resigning-as-asahi-linux-project-lead/

22:20 <twb> And https://asahilinux.org/2025/02/passing-the-torch/ which explains that the project is still fine

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22:27 <imnotpoz> almost forgot to mention, I'm running on an m2 pro

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