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<depach>
jannau: thanks, did check logs - thats great news , will keep an eye on this chan , still getting my irc client working properly again
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<jannau>
depach: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2804010 is the build of those changes. you could upgrade those directly from there. use the download links for the noarch packages directly with `sudo dnf upgrade`. due to dependencies you need to upgrade all 6
<jannau>
after that normal dnf upgrade or Discover / Gnome Software update should work. maybe check that update-m1n1 is not downgraded
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<depach>
thanks, will give it a try
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<twb>
arm64 macs don't have Target SCSI mode, but they do have "recoveryOS > Utilities > Share Disk". Are there any linux options to talk to a shared disk? (I think "no", but I can't find anyone saying that explicitly)
<jannau>
isn't that just samba/smb?
<twb>
oh, is it? I thought it was UAS
<twb>
I mean, I *hoped* it was UAS
<twb>
So I've got a USB-C cable running from recoveryOS to Linux, and Linux can see "ID 05ac:1905 Apple, Inc. Mac" on the USB bus, but how do I then reach samba over that? I don't see it providing an ethernet-over-USB device either...
<sven>
these things should support USB4NET but maybe that's not enabled in recoveryOS
<jannau>
I overread "RecoveryOS". no idea what that is
<jannau>
share disk in recoveryos
<twb>
recoveryOS is the thing you get if you hold the power button when you turn the mac on, and then pick "options"
<sven>
i assume recoveryos is just whatever runs in 1TR
<twb>
the "r" in "1TR" is short for "recoveryOS"
<sven>
hrm, i'm pretty sure 1tr is 1 true recovery. but doesn't matter
<sven>
so assuming you have a thunderbolt cable, a thunderbolt capable linux machine and are running normal macOS it should negotiate a thunderbolt connection and setup usb4net
<twb>
I don't know if I have a tbolt cable. I'm connecting a USB-C <-> USB-C cable to a Lenovo Thinkpad T490s, which definitely has *some* kind of tbolt firmware inside it/
<sven>
if it's not tbt or usb4 compatible the macos side might fall back to device mode i guess. but no idea what device it'll expose
<twb>
Ah in Gnome > Settings > Thunderbolt I can see "Direct Access" is enabled, and "Devices: no devices detected"
<twb>
I can at least see the device exists in USB
<sven>
might just not be a tbt compatible cable then
<twb>
Let me see if I have another C-to-C cable...
<twb>
I was using the one from my headlights, let me try the one from my keyboard
<sven>
tbt cables are usually short and quite sturdy
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<twb>
I was initially using the shorted cable I had
<twb>
Trying another random cable, no change. I can see the macbook in "lsusb" and creating /sys/class/usb_power_delivery/pd3 and /sys/class/typec/port0-partner
<jannau>
with a thunderbolt capable cable connected to asahi linux system it presents as a usb2 device with cdc ethernet
<twb>
But I don't see anything in gnome settings > tbolt
<jannau>
no linux network interfaces though
<twb>
Remember: the macbook is booted into recoveryOS (not asahi linux) right now, and the lenovo is running non-asahi linux
<twb>
I've run out of cables so just to see what happens I'm gonna boot into macOS and see if it appears in linux's tbolt device list
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<jannau>
sure. I suspect share disk is usb2 device mode with cdc ethernet. if it were thunderbolt I would expect it to trip up tipd on linux side
<sven>
yeah, only with that atcphy wip branch I think I actually had it successfully negotiate tbt host to host mode. usb4net itself then failed because the tbt code still has issues :D
<sven>
but i've seen usb4net with a x86 machine connected to a M1 running macos
<sven>
*x86 linux machine
<twb>
FTR, booting the mac into macOS or Debian, I still don't see anything in gnome > settings > thunderbolt > no devices attached on the lenovo side
<cy8aer>
because there is no thunderbold support yet
<sven>
what exactly are you trying to achieve?
<twb>
I was curious if I could reflash the linux part of the onboard disk over UAS over a computer-to-computer cable, like used to be possible on old macs
<jannau>
looks unlikely as the share disk selection offers OS installs. that's most likely just the data volume of the specific OS install
<jannau>
even connected to macos it's just usb2 cdc ethernet with smb
<twb>
And the thing it's sharing is files, not partitions?
<jannau>
yes, a smb mount
<twb>
OK, thanks for confirming. So even if that much had worked it wouldn't have been useful for my use case
<jannau>
and just access to the "disk" shared in recoveryos
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<depach>
running the dnf upgrade now after manually installing the builds
<depach>
update-m1n1 was not in the list
<depach>
jannau: updates worked, thanks for your assistance! :)
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<Gue___________________________>
hello
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<jbe>
hmm, is it possible to have kde/wayland remember I've muted the speakers between boots? it seems to reset to 100% on every time
<bgtlover[mds]>
that's what happens with my microphone
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<twb>
jbe: surely it is supposed to do that by default
<twb>
I mean it is supposed to remember
<j`ey>
yes there seems to be a bug where it is reset to 100%
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<chadmed>
jbe: thats a pipewire bug
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<mixi>
note on that bug: while normally it goes back to the saved volume as soon as you start playing audio, it seems to save the volume as 100% if you boot and shut down without playing any audio in between, which means it'll stay on full blast on the next boot
<bgtlover[mds]>
mixi: ahh, so that's why it saves volume on the sink? but I have the same issue with input, and there it doesn't get fixed
<mixi>
at least the random times of playback with 100% volume did not occur for me anymore after I started automatically playing 1s of silence on every boot
<mixi>
no clue about the input, but it would make sense to me if it has a symmetrical bug
<mixi>
does the volume go to a sensible value if you set the volume, reboot, start to record from the device?