ChanServ changed the topic of #wayland to: https://wayland.freedesktop.org | Discussion about the Wayland protocol and its implementations, plus libinput
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<wlb> weston Merge request !1817 opened by Leandro Ribeiro (leandrohrb) color: introduce output color effects https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1817 [Colour management], [Weston frontend]
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<emersion> you mean a "whole desktop" thing?
<zzxyb[m]> I mean part of the screen area. If there are two screens, this area may span the screen.
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<wlb> wayland-protocols Merge request !438 opened by YaoBing Xiao (zzxyb) ext-image-capture-source-v1: Add ext_region_image_capture_source_manager_v1 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/438
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<llyyr> is there much benefit to having that as opposed to the clients cropping themselves?
<zzxyb[m]> llyyr: small video memory or memory usage
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<wlb> weston/main: Jaeyoon Jung * desktop-shell: Add scale-fit background type https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/e91252a943df clients/desktop-shell.c man/weston.ini.man
<wlb> weston Merge request !1813 merged \o/ (desktop-shell: Add scale-fit background type https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1813)
<any1> zzxyb[m]: I never thought of that. I like it.
<any1> llyyr: The intended use-case for this is not cropping, but to capture from multiple outputs at once, or even the entire desktop.
<llyyr> i see
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<wlb> weston Merge request !1818 opened by Robert Mader (rmader) Draft: gitlab-ci: Bump Mesa to 25.0.0 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1818
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<wlb> weston Issue #1046 closed \o/ (Cannot start with backend=vnc https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/issues/1046)
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<wlb> weston Merge request !1731 closed (headless-backend,gl-renderer: add --egl-device-id option to pick device)
<zamundaaa[m]> pq: swick: do you know if mastering display white point and content white point can differ at any point, and if they can, what to do about it?
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<pooyam> Is there a solution to share a wayland session desktop over local network to a X11 host?
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<zamundaaa[m]> As an update to that, ST2086 doesn't mention that it should match, so I assume the white points can be different
<zamundaaa[m]> For what to do about it, I think adapting the mastering primaries to the whitepoint of the content makes sense, as the reverse is what almost certainly happened in the mastering process
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<soreau> pooyam: you can use wayvnc for the server and pretty much any vnc client in X
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<pooyam> soreau, thanks
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<NaGERST> How can a community this small work agains the will of IBM/Redhat? Seems rediculous. But i am willing to listen.
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<wlb> weston Merge request !1819 opened by Leandro Ribeiro (leandrohrb) Dma-buf feedback fixes backport to 13 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1819 [Backport to Weston 13], [DRM/KMS backend]
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<swick[m]> (didn't get a ping...)
<swick[m]> so the answer is no; don't do that
<zamundaaa[m]> swick: maybe I'm overlooking something, but that page doesn't tell me anything about the white point, except that it is indeed from the actual mastering display and may be different from the container whitepoint?
<swick[m]> to conform to the encoding standard the white point of the content has to be that of the encoding standard
<swick[m]> the white point of the MDCV therefor is only a byproduct of defining the color volume shape
<swick[m]> the color volume shape is the crucial part here. if you somehow adapt the white point, the color volume changes.
<zamundaaa[m]> Right, adapting the white point also moves the primaries around
<zamundaaa[m]> Which wouldn't make sense when looking at a physical display
<swick[m]> explaining if from a production perspective: you have a mastering display with a slightly different white point, but to master for the color encoding (i.e. bt2100) you still have to show white at the white point of bt2100. so you just do that: put the content white not at the white point of the display but of the encoding standard.
<swick[m]> it's just that your mastering monitor will clip everything outside of its color volume
<zamundaaa[m]> Yeah, that makes some amount of sense
<zamundaaa[m]> Ok, so I'll just use MDCV completely unmodified to calculate the range of RGB values the MD could've displayed
<zamundaaa[m]> swick: thanks!
<swick[m]> np
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