ChanServ changed the topic of #wayland to: https://wayland.freedesktop.org | Discussion about the Wayland protocol and its implementations, plus libinput
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<wlb> wayland.freedesktop.org/main: Peter Hutterer * libinput: 1.28.0 and 1.28.1 docs https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland.freedesktop.org/commit/bcf29ce79303 libinput/doc/ 1.28.1/.buildinfo 1.28.1/_images/button-debouncing-wave-diagram.svg 1.28.1/_images/button-scrolling.svg 1.28.1/_images/clickfinger-distance.svg 1.28.1/_images/clickfinger.svg 1.28.1/_images/edge-scrolling.svg 1.28.1/_images/gesture-2fg-ambigu
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<daniels> emersion: wl_shm ref?
<emersion> yea
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<pq> dcz, vyivel, ack_configure also solves a race: the compositor sends configure event at the same time the client posts a new commit. Did the client see the configure yet or not when the server sees the commit?
<daniels> emersion: yeah, that's a good plan
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<DavidEdmundson[m]> jadahl: with xx-session-management do you have it off by default and then opt-in with some config/env flag on both mutter and GTK?
<DavidEdmundson[m]> I just want to make sure I do something matching my side
<jadahl> it's off by default, and you have to poke at a D-Bus property that is only exposed if you enable a "debug control" feature
<jadahl> or set an env var
<jadahl> gtk hasn't landed anything yet AFAIK
<DavidEdmundson[m]> ok, I'll put in an env var our kwin side. Thanks.
<DavidEdmundson[m]> For the Qt side, I may as well be on by default? It's not going to do anything unless the user has meddled their compositor
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<jadahl> DavidEdmundson[m]: possibly yes, but IIRC gtk ran into issues with the xx-color-management api which was at some point on by default in kwin (?)
<jadahl> as in, it's not risk free doing so in clients
<pq> the only caveat should be that the client and server major versions of the interface don't match, which is the same as one not implementing it.
<pq> if you are going by the version being landed in wayland-protocols
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<wlb> wayland-protocols Merge request !405 opened by DorotaC (dcz) DISCUSSION: input-method https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/405
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<pq> zamundaaa[m], how did you take black point into account when crafting the adapter LittleCMS profile between ICC and parametric profiles?
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<zamundaaa[m]> pq: we don't use lcms for anything except parsing the icc profile, and in an autotest (for comparison between the lcms vs. KWin's pipeline)
<pq> zamundaaa[m], ah, so KWin doesn't support e.g. an ICC profile containing a 3D LUT for a display?
<pq> IOW, do you support only matrix-shaper style ICC profiles at all?
<zamundaaa[m]> No, we just don't use lcms for that
<pq> Do you check for AToB* and DToB* etc. tags and warn if they exist?
<zamundaaa[m]> No, we use AToB tags when available
<zamundaaa[m]> DToB aren't used right now
<zamundaaa[m]> We just have our own pipeline abstraction that works with parametric too: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/blob/master/src/core/colorpipeline.h
<pq> ok
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<wlb> weston/main: Marius Vlad * tests: Add xdg-client-helper library https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/3b7d29f87157 tests/ xdg-client-helper.c xdg-client-helper.h kiosk-shell-test.c meson.build
<wlb> weston/main: Marius Vlad * weston-test-client-helper: Use the helper already avaible https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/1296690ede3e tests/ kiosk-shell-test.c weston-test-client-helper.c weston-test-client-helper.h
<wlb> weston/main: Marius Vlad * weston-test-client-helper: Move helpers into weston-test-client-helper https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/7bb9fc5b62e6 tests/ kiosk-shell-test.c weston-test-client-helper.c weston-test-client-helper.h
<wlb> weston/main: Marius Vlad * xdg-client-helper: Use a default WINDOW size value https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/commit/35da5ca5a672 tests/ xdg-client-helper.c xdg-client-helper.h
<wlb> weston Merge request !1749 merged \o/ (tests: Add xdg-client-helper library https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1749)
<pq> zamundaaa[m], do you remember where did we talk about your PQ signal vs. black level measurements? IRC or Gitlab?
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<pq> thanks!
<pq> funnily enough, the way we wrote st2084 in the protocol, the normalized TF became min-max relative rather than absolute.
<pq> and I'm second-guessing that, but next week \o.
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<outoftime> What do I need to know to get RGB values of some part of the screen in C with Wayland?
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<selckin> look at slurp source?
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<dcz> is Jan Arne Petersen still a maintainer of text-input? I can't find the username on gitlab
<dcz> I contributed a small change and want to build up some interest/familiarity before tackling bigger changes https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/399
<jadahl> dcz: you want to talk to d_ed and garnacho probably
<dcz> jadahl: thanks
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<garnacho> I'll have a look at that one tomorrow
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<DavidEdmundson[m]> <dcz> "is Jan Arne Petersen still a..." <- they've not done anything on text input in a long time
<DavidEdmundson[m]> this was back in Meego days
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