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<NikitaSavc>
Hello! Sorry, it maybe off-topic, but I don't know where I can ask.
<NikitaSavc>
Sorry, unfinished message.
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<NikitaSavc>
I am a user of Oticon Xceed 1 BTE SP hearing aids.
<NikitaSavc>
There is a problem that they have Bluetooth but only support audio streaming to iPhone and macBook as part of the “Made for iPhone” program
<NikitaSavc>
Apparently Apple is using a proprietary Bluetooth protocol, the MFi Hearing Aid Protocol
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<NikitaSavc>
Unfortunately, this is not publicly documented in any way. I'd like to know if this is specific to Apple hardware or if it's just Bluetooth dependent?
<NikitaSavc>
Android devices are not supported. ASHA and Bluetooth LE Audio by hearing aids are not supported
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<NikitaSavc>
The hearing aids have Bluetooth v4.1, which doesn't support Bluetooth LE Audio
<NikitaSavc>
theoretically it is possible do audio streaming in hearing aids on an Android device too, but there's no support for Apple's proprietary protocol.
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<NikitaSavc>
And I have three questions, since I want to try to research this protocol and implement it on other OSes.
<NikitaSavc>
1. is this not nailed down to Apple hardware?
<NikitaSavc>
2. Is there anything you are not aware of that works?
<NikitaSavc>
3. What is the best way to start learning this?
<chaos_princess>
no clue about how this protocol works, but considering the typical apple nonsense, there is a non zero chance there is public key crypto involved, so you might not be able to extract the certs
<chaos_princess>
if you want to see what is happening, grab "additional tools from xcode", and use the packet logger from there, it can see bt traffic
<NikitaSavc2>
There's also a problem: I don't have any working Apple devices on hands. Is it possible to create a VM with macOS and make a Bluetooth bridge?
<NikitaSavc2>
In Russia Apple devices are selling for a very crazy price
<chadmed>
it is not possible to run macos under any hypervisor that is not apple's own hypervisor.framework
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<chadmed>
(m1n1 doesnt count)
<chaos_princess>
x86 hackintosh? but that is not a topic for this channel
<NikitaSavc2>
I was running macOS in vmware, but maybe it was hackintosh, don't remember. Then, it is offtopic. Thanks for reply.
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