#asahi-dev on 2025-06-08 — irc logs at oftc.catirclogs.org

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08:11 <nickchan> i ran m1n1 in an emulator but ultimately not super useful (sw model: iPhone 6s Plus) and qemu's tcg is so slow so framebuffer is pratically unusable

08:13 <nickchan> and hvf and kvm can't possibly work due to all those custom sysregs

08:26 <nickchan> erm it can work with arm's model of hw virt on paper but neither hvf or kvm seem to support trapping those impdef sysregs

08:27 <nickchan> and then of course there's el3 on s8000 but that should be trivial to patch given that xnu monitor has a grand total of two smcs

08:35 <maz> nickchan: oh, KVM supports trapping the IMPDEF stuff alright. It actually sets the trap bit (HCR_EL2.TIDCP), and inject an UNDEF as a result.

08:37 <maz> you could implement the emulation in userspace if you wanted, it wouldn't be a massive change to the KVM code.

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10:38 <fl0_id> chadmed chaos_princess thx. just to clarify. I have a stub install for m1n1 already (separate partition) But afaik a normal macos install can be installed in the same partition (but separate volume). And that is less steps/easier to do than making another partition afaik. So for running under hv, can I just install it in the m1n1 or original macOS container? (but separate volume ofc)

10:38 <chaos_princess> that should work

10:38 <fl0_id> ok cool

10:39 <chaos_princess> there is the possible downside that if you are messing with the disk, there is a chance that it will destroy all oses that are installed in that container, but i don't think that is likely

10:55 <fl0_id> right, true

10:55 <fl0_id> thx for the input

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