#asahi on 2025-04-26 — irc logs at oftc.catirclogs.org

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10:00 <PhantomLink29> Question before I attempt this on my spare mac. It is an M1 that is mdm-locked and has a password I don't know for access to the FS within recovery. Will this install and run on the machine?

10:01 <PhantomLink29> more specifically, m1 air

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10:03 <PhantomLink29> I can activate the system and use udm bypass to get into a usable system, but as I found a better configuration system for my mac needs, I was thinking of using this system as a spare lightweight linux machine to learn more in the linux space. I'm just curious to know if this will cause a brick due to these circumstances.

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10:17 <chaos_princess> not possible to install

10:17 <chaos_princess> (i think? mdm locked machines are basically a pain, and unless you have the recovery password, assume no)

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10:19 <PhantomLink29> good to know. I've tried reaching out with the number that came with the notice upon reset but got no response as they have apparently gone under since

10:20 <PhantomLink29> I can get to recovery which was how I used the tool to get a working login at the OS level

10:22 <chaos_princess> ah

10:22 <chaos_princess> yea, so, your machine is a ticking time bomb. do not install asahi, do not touch any macos install, absolutely never let the os install get corrupted enough you will have to dfu restore

10:23 <PhantomLink29> yeah, dfu was what I was stopped at iirc

10:23 <chaos_princess> dfu will turn it into a pumpkin

10:23 <PhantomLink29> i mean at this point it's a spare mac I'm not using

10:25 <PhantomLink29> If it breaks, it breaks. I can't in good conscience try to sell it

10:27 <sven> if you have proof of purchase that apple accepts they may be able to remove it

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10:28 <PhantomLink29> I wish. It was a cash deal and a lesson learned.

10:28 <PhantomLink29> I found a 16GB, 2TB model to replace it and just kind of want to mess with this base 8GB system. I found this project while looking for ideas.

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10:36 <PhantomLink29> here it is, this got me to a usable OS environment https://github.com/assafdori/bypass-mdm

10:37 <PhantomLink29> If asahi's not possible, I'll wait til I find another system to try it on. thank you

10:38 <chaos_princess> installing a non-apple os needs it to be signed with a machine owner key, and on those mdm-bypassed machines and similar, you will not have access to it

10:39 <PhantomLink29> okay, that makes sense then. I appreciate the explanation.

10:40 <chaos_princess> and in general, please do not ask "how to bypass activation lock/mdm" in project channels, it is not a thing that people will help with :P

10:41 <PhantomLink29> I've already applied that part. I just wanted to know the feasibility of switching OSes

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10:43 <PhantomLink29> this machine was my first time buying an apple device secondhand, and a lesson learned.

10:44 <chaos_princess> yea, it is a really sharp edge unfortunately, and imo, i am not even sure how you safely do it w/o meeting in person

10:44 <PhantomLink29> In the process I learned how to check for mdm or make the seller do it for me, which I did with the 2TB model, and verified it is a clean system.

10:44 <PhantomLink29> I just..don't want to mess with the nicer spec one as much as the spare time bomb

10:47 <PhantomLink29> Thanks again

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11:34 <PhantomLink29> an actual support-oriented question, is asahi as easy to get started with as Ubuntu or Mint?

11:35 <chaos_princess> it has an unusual install process, and its arm instead of x86, but aside from that it is literally just fedora with most guides applying

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18:50 <the_eye> chadmed: not that I know .. and find ~/ -name asound.conf doesn't return anything

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18:52 <the_eye> hmm lemme check if I have some ancient audacity config lying around..

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18:53 <the_eye> nope, that's not it either

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19:32 <PaulFertser> the_eye: `strace -e access,openat speaker-test` will show you if any additional configs are used from anywhere.

19:33 <PaulFertser> In home directory it's looking for ~/.asoundrc and ~/.config/alsa/asoundrc so `find ~/ -name asound.conf` wouldn't show those.

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19:39 <the_eye> PaulFertser: ah, good to know..

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19:41 <the_eye> yeah but still no, so I'll try the strace thing next

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19:47 <PaulFertser> the_eye: the next step would be trying something like `aplay -vvv /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav` so that you see what device is opened and how exactly etc.

19:47 <PaulFertser> If you're unsure about your ALSA lib configuration.

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20:02 <the_eye> that one plays via ALSA <-> PipeWire PCM I/O Plugin and does make noise

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20:12 <the_eye> since it's just audacity (so far) that seems to show this problem here's the strace output for audacity (in case anyone is curious enough to look, it's a lot..) https://paste.in-ulm.de/?b72749289c4cf6b3#4ZqD9yMBM9Y9gv41ePbzMjWaSLtBJo6ES4LcE3m4zYeq

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20:20 <the_eye> it's reading /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf and these devices that audacity complains about are listed in that file

20:21 <the_eye> that file is owned by alsa-lib-1.2.14-2.fc42.aarch64 so .. should be okay, presumably?

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20:22 <the_eye> _but_, renaming this file temporarily (so audacity can't find it) leads to audacity starting okay.

20:23 <the_eye> which is weird, shouldn't this hit other ppl as well?

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20:27 <the_eye> at least playback is also working correctly in audacity after renaming /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf

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