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04:31 <nicolas17> apparently the A19 DCP firmware mentions MST

04:33 <nicolas17> probably means nothing for iPhone, but it hints M5 Macs could finally get displayport MST

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05:13 <jannau> I was not expecting that after that added an dcp to M4. I guess they got too many complaints that display outputs on hubs are not working (or are terribly late with implementing MST support)

05:15 <jannau> N1 seems to use rtkit so I guess coproc and possibly CPU faacing parts of the network interface are on the SoC

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05:17 <nicolas17> I saw mentions of "AOP2 offload" and "ultra low power networking" on the iOS 26 push notification daemon, maybe it's only for devices with N1

05:18 <nicolas17> maybe they deal with APNS keepalives and other stuff without waking the CPU now

05:29 <nicolas17> I honestly expect Liquid Glass and Apple Intelligence to bring more users to Asahi btw :D

05:38 <sven> I think we’re too niche for that

05:39 <sven> even if we supported m3/4 already

06:19 <jannau> it won't be noticable if using macos users as base but it might be compared to the current asahi user base

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06:55 <maettu102> If they add mst support would that only affect newer machines or do you think they would ship firmware updates for the older ones as well?

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07:15 <fl0_id> maettu102 who knows

07:22 <jannau> I'd expect it only applies to new devices. Not sure if the old HW even would support it. There might be a similar thing to use more bandwidth for thunderbolt tunneled DP but that doesn't use multiplexing but tb's capability to tunnel 2 DP connections

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08:53 <sven> nickchan: the pre-M1 usb2phy only had similar registers but at different offsets, etc, didn't it?

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12:42 <nickchan> sven: correct there's some similarities but not enough to use one driver for both

12:43 <sven> okay, great

12:44 <nickchan> it also has complications of dealing with 32-bit dma devices but without a dart

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12:48 <nickchan> now there's also usb3 phys on some a9x and a10x ipads but as far as I can tell that's a completely different animal

12:48 <nickchan> that i have no idea how to drive yet

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12:59 <nickchan> a11 and t2 spmi series should be ready again now after the generic compatible incident

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13:02 <nickchan> sven: it's not a big deal but "usb: dwc3: Add Apple Silicon DWC3 glue layer driver" in the wip/atcphy branch mentions Apple M1 specifically which is probably not appropriate

13:03 <nickchan> must be a leftover from when m1 is everything

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16:59 <sven> we mention m1 in many places because it's the first soc where much of this stuff was introduced

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17:32 <jannau> I'm not sure if anyone has rigorously tested if later (or earler) devices behave in the exact same way. it's a good assumption but not a reason not to explicitly mention M1

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17:34 <sven> yeah

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17:41 <jannau> the assumption that M1 Pro/Max and M2 behave similar is expressed by using the same campatible

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