#asahi-dev on 2025-08-02 — irc logs at oftc.catirclogs.org

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03:50 <chadmed_> oh lmfao the devicetree nodes for the SMC didn't go in with the driver?

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06:03 <sven> yeah, I had already sent our PRs when SMC was picked up

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06:28 <chadmed_> no stress just means i cant submit hwmon

06:29 <chadmed_> and rebasing the prepared commits on to asahi-wip for testing is going to be a PITA

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10:46 <sven> just base your series on torvalds tree plus those three cherry picked commits

10:47 <sven> or wait until rc1 is out and I can pick them up and then use that tree as a base

10:48 <sven> I’ve done that for the first SMC versions with spmi nvmem when that’s hadn’t been picked up yet

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12:50 <snklp> hey everyone :) joining for the first time. I'm interested in the project and thinking of picking up a used macbook air to test. Wanted to ask if someone who knows about systems/kernels but not experienced with drivers can contribute to the development somehow? (outside of money...)

12:50 <snklp> Particularly interested in learning about and helping with SEP and/or thunderbolt stuff

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13:03 <sven> SEP needs significant reverse engineering, that's a way you could contribute if you have experience there

13:09 <snklp> limited experience, none with a coprocessor, but if you have a guide for how to interact with the SEP I could have a go in my free time. No guarantees, unfortunately, but would be happy to contribute where I can.

13:10 <chaos_princess> if you wanna learn, set up the m1n1 development environment, and try recreating the tracer for something that already has a driver, for example the pwm block, it is dead simple.

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13:11 <snklp> That sounds like a good idea, thanks! I'll have a look at m1n1

13:11 <chaos_princess> https://github.com/AsahiLinux/m1n1/blob/main/proxyclient/m1n1/hw/sep.py - and here is a starting tracer for sep, it is not completely correct, but the basics of the protocol is there

13:12 <snklp> :pray: great! I'll probably pick up a macbook air in the next week or so

13:12 <snklp> Is either an m1 or m2 fine, or is there a preference?

13:12 <chaos_princess> if you want to touch sep, probably do not store anything you care about on that machine

13:13 <snklp> oh yes it'll be a device just to test with

13:13 <chaos_princess> very high chance of killing the disk encryption keys if you mess with xart/gigalocker and do it wrong

13:13 <snklp> ouch; is it possible to do a full wipe and restore? or is that a brick

13:13 <chaos_princess> yes, that is most likely a full dfu restore with all data gone

13:14 <snklp> as long as it's not bricked :D

13:14 <snklp> last question for now: Is either an m1 or m2 fine, or is there a preference?

13:15 <chaos_princess> whatever you want, m2 is obviously newer and faster

13:15 <snklp> yes, hence my preference for m2. but if m1 is better/more supported, then I would try to get that

13:15 <chaos_princess> linux support is the same basically

13:16 <snklp> alright, sounds cool, I'll get what I can get for cheap then

13:16 <snklp> thanks! have a nice day

13:17 <chaos_princess> (i've done some sep investigation, but stopped, since i do not have any machines for which a dfu restore would not be very annoying)

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13:19 <sven> (same)

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13:42 <sven> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/sven/linux.git/?h=wip/smc-rtc will submit smc-rtc after -rc1 is out as well, didn't need any major changes from our downstream tree

13:42 <sven> only had to add devicetree bindings

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15:47 <sven> also, we should really make that m1n1 release

15:48 <sven> jannau: how do we release m1n1? either of us just creates a 1.5.0 tag? or is there anything else we need to do

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16:48 <jannau> sven: I think so. marcan or I also took care of updating the fedora package but that's a separate task anyway

16:49 <jannau> https://github.com/AsahiLinux/m1n1/pull/476 would make my life a little easier but I can deal with it until the next release

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17:06 <sven> let's merge it and tag the release then

17:09 <sven> https://github.com/AsahiLinux/m1n1/releases/tag/v1.5.0

17:09 <sven> i guess that worked

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