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05:37 <sven> See that gpu initdata PR

05:37 <sven> it still causes issues

05:38 <sven> https://github.com/AsahiLinux/m1n1/pull/466#issuecomment-2877481496

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05:50 <chadmed> urgh okay guess this goes on the backburner then...

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07:05 <sven> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/sven/linux.git/log/?h=wip/atcphy commit descriptions needs some work, i have no idea what pipehandler_workaround is about and i still need to track down that suspend issue. happy with that thing otherwise though

07:16 <chadmed_> sven: i take it this supersedes our downstream atcphy entirely?

07:17 <sven> that’s the plan once that’s submitted and accepted, yes

07:17 <chadmed_> cool

07:17 <sven> it’s the combination of what I did at 38c3 and marcan then fixed up in early January

07:18 <sven> my plan is to get this upstream, the a useless version of tbt that’s only the native host interface and then see about PCIe tunneling

07:18 <sven> *then

07:18 <chadmed_> so we've got everything except pcie tunnelling?

07:18 <chadmed_> ah yep ^

07:18 <sven> that branch doesn’t contain any tbt work fwiw

07:18 <sven> that would be another 20+ commits :D

07:19 <chadmed_> yeah :P

07:19 <sven> but the atcphy side of tbt is included

07:21 <sven> the logic there is still brittle and spread across tipd,dwc3 and atcphy but it’s the best we can do without a major refactor of everything usb I think

07:21 <chadmed_> let someone get paid to do that

07:22 <chadmed_> surely, suuureeeely at some point someone else is going to come along with a similarly non-intel-reference-design tbt platform

07:22 <sven> riiiiight

07:22 <chadmed_> let me cope

07:22 <sven> that’s the other argument for this: everyone else is likely just going to stuff the common Intel chip in there and call it a day ;)

07:24 <chadmed_> yeah

07:25 <chadmed_> i figured amd would tape out their own thunderbolt block at some point but theyll probably just copy intels homework if they ever do at this point

07:37 <sven> I still wonder if atcphy was done in collaboration with synopsys

07:38 <sven> they claim to have usb4 ip but I haven’t seen that used anywhere last time I checked

07:40 <chadmed_> they got it certified on an fpga, i dont think there are any hw implementations at all yet lol

07:41 <chadmed_> they have versions for tsmc and samsung pdks apparently so who knows

07:42 <jannau> what does qualcomm use? they use at least dwc3 and their eusb2 hub seems to be synopsys based as well

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07:46 <sven> huh, i somehow missed that had usb4 support these day

07:48 <jannau> in 6.15 there seems to be just usb3 and dp-alt support but it's dwc3 based

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07:55 <sven> pity, would be great if this was based on the same phy ip *and* if they implemented tbt for us :D

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08:10 <jannau> I can't find any usb4 patches

08:11 <jannau> the phy is Documentation/devicetree/bindings/phy/qcom,sc8280xp-qmp-usb43dp-phy.yaml but not usb4/pcie-tunneling support there either

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08:13 <sven> nice, let's see how that compares to the atcphy binding I made up

08:13 <sven> i think that one's still missing the connection to tipd, etc.

08:15 <sven> ok, ports subnode. looks reasonable

08:17 <sven> I think I'll just start with the connection to the type-c controller and see if we need the others later

08:20 <sven> I might need one to the tbt nhi and maybe even to dwc3 for usb4 tunneling

08:20 <sven> and those also make sense to describe the hardware I think. there have to be some lanes from the PHY to both

08:33 <jannau> most of the x1 elite devices seems to use https://www.paradetech.com/products/ps8830/ https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-msm/20241112-x1e80100-ps8830-v5-0-4ad83af4d162@linaro.org/ as type-c controller

08:37 <jannau> of course different because tipd has no integrated retimer

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09:32 <sven> they also seem to get away without the entire dwc3/atcphy sync mess

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10:43 <sven> okay, so the pipehandler/BIST dance clearly smells like a workaround for _something_

10:43 <sven> i can do the pipehandler switch with dwc3 in reset without the lock dance or BIST thingy

10:43 <sven> and i think that's what the parameter switches to

10:43 <sven> so i'll just drop it and keep it enabled to make the mmio trace match whatever xnu does

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10:46 <sven> this almost looks reasonable now :D

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11:10 <sven> smc-hid needs minimal changes but works just fine with the smc that's on list then: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/sven/linux.git/log/?h=wip/smc-hid

11:10 <sven> now let's see about atcphy and suspend

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12:33 <alxdrl> cs+pico assembled and working, flux really helps for clean solder joints lol

12:34 <alxdrl> will move to #ci-tron

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21:44 <chaos_princess> jannau: am i reading this right that ppm-ki/kp and similar are different on the studio/pro?

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22:14 <chaos_princess> also, probably fixed cs/afr init, affects t602x

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23:17 <allmazz> maybe there are some assumptions about the difference between aop on m2 and m2 max?

23:23 <allmazz> i was going to capture a trace, but... this is my only machine now

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