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<chadmed>
hm we will probably need to hard depend on llvm-libunwind then too
<chadmed>
i am concerned about SEH being largely untested by the sounds of it but there are probably going to be bigger issues before that matters
<chadmed>
most likely fex-related
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<kode54>
LLVM 21 branching is happening that soon?
<kode54>
Arch just adopted 20 within the last month :/
<chadmed>
gentoo hasnt even stabilised 20 yet :/
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<sam_>
plan is to do that shortly
<sam_>
you're free to ping and ask about it as well..
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<chadmed>
it hasnt really been an issue, more of a curiosity
<chadmed>
ik it broke a bunch of stuff when it dropped
<sam_>
it's always a tricky thing because of how LLVM's release process is
<sam_>
like, if we stable 20 immediately, we end up making stable users build many point releaes
<sam_>
*releases
<sam_>
on the other hand, if we wait until towards the end, if we find any bugs, they won't get fixed because the branch is EOL now
<sam_>
I have made comments about this upstream and they are getting there (which is why the releases now last longer)
<sam_>
what I really want is for the previous branch to overlap a little bit with the new one
<kode54>
my favorite is people committed to the bit of macOS, but not committed enough to test the betas at all, under the impression that any bugs they encounter now are just Beta Crud, and therefore won't be a problem if they just Wait For Stable
<sam_>
yep
<sam_>
this is really The Problem with testing
<sam_>
it's really hard to communicate it
<chadmed>
i have some sympathy for users in this regard. if they file useless/misplaced bug reports we get upset at them. we also get upset at them when they dont report bugs :P
<kode54>
so basically, it's a no-win scenario :D
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