00:01 <MasterDuke> brings back memories of interactively booting config.sys and autoexec.bat to switch between expanded vs extended ram for games that wanted one or the other

00:05 <tobhe[m]> not quite like that but somewhat. another hardware has the opposite issue and doesn't like high memory addresses

00:08 <tobhe[m]> luckily I decided to make it fall back to the old behavior

00:08 <tobhe[m]> Systemd made the same mistake at one point https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/35026

00:08 <kaazoo> Steam needs new RootFS with updated Mesa packages. I'm looking into that once we have a build for i386.

00:09 <tobhe[m]> I can try to just reupload with RUSTICL disabled

00:09 <kaazoo> Also virglrenderer needs to be updated to support new uAPI version used in kernel and mesa

00:09 <tobhe[m]> or better diff with the previous version

00:10 <MasterDuke> kaazoo: cool, glad to hear there's a way forward

00:14 <kaazoo> I have a local build of virglrenderer, based on https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/asahi/virglrenderer/-/commits/asahi-20250424

00:15 <kaazoo> vkcube and glxgears works from "muvm FEXBash" shell

00:18 <tobhe[m]> new 24.04 mesa uploaded

00:19 <kaazoo> Steam doesn't start because of missing Mesa packages for i386. The UI is 32 bit

00:20 <kaazoo> will check back later

00:21 <MasterDuke> does this get any easier now that steam is native for apple silicon (though i assume just the macos vesion)?

00:21 <tobhe[m]> not really I think

00:21 <MasterDuke> too bad

00:22 <tobhe[m]> it will get a lot easier because the ABI is now in upstream Linux and that means we soon won't have to build a custom mesa anymore

00:22 <tobhe[m]> the mesa code has always been upstream but disabled because they had a strict kernel first policy

00:23 <tobhe[m]> also they used that freedom to make breaking api changes every once in a while

00:23 <tobhe[m]> which is why we always have to update them in tandem

00:23 <tobhe[m]> this is probably the last time, with the next ubuntu release the regular mesa might just work

00:24 <tobhe[m]> kaazoo: i386 seems to be building this time

00:24 <tobhe[m]> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-asahi/+archive/ubuntu/mesa/+build/30989821

00:24 <MasterDuke> good deal. i've been very happy with this hardware+os combo, and it seems like it keeps getting better

22:55 <kaazoo> tobhe: Can you please also build mesa for i386 on plucky?

22:57 <tobhe[m]> sure

22:57 <tobhe[m]> btw it seems the latest fex update broke steam on fedora

23:49 <tobhe[m]> mesa is building