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<Justin2025> Are we aware https://poppler.freedesktop.org/ is down?
<f_> yes
<Justin2025> Get out f_
<f_> I asked a bit before
<Justin2025> Seriously you're everywhere.
<Justin2025> :D
<f_> 11:37 <f_> gitlab pages seem to be broken
<f_> 11:37 <f_> https://wayback.freedesktop.org/ returns 500
<f_> 11:38 <f_> and networkmanager docs also return the same error
<f_> <...>
<f_> 11:47 <Ermine> > network gremlins --- I'll remember this one
<f_> 11:47 <f_> bentiss: ok, good to know
<f_> I Justin2025 I presume you're that Justin still? :P
<Justin2025> Thanks! I'll hang around in this dusty IRC thing for a bit longer to see when it comes back :)
<Justin2025> Yes, it is I.
<f_> some people often call me omnipresent and I wonder why :)
<Justin2025> I know why..
<f_> please keep it secret I gotta find it out by myself ;)
<Justin2025> Interesting, LibreOffice apparently mirror poppler stuff: https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/src/poppler-data-0.4.12.tar.gz
<f_> uhhhhhhh 392 open buffers
<f_> I guess I might probably know why
<f_> Justin2025: TIL
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<f_> that said it seems the wayback website is up now
<Justin2025> I'd like to suggest freedesktop set up a download server for tarballs etc and set up a CDN in front of it, that way if fd infra is down we can continue working.
<f_> I think they already have a cdn?
<Justin2025> The links to download poppler-data for example go to poppler.freedesktop.org which is a GitLab instance.
<f_> ah
<f_> it's a gitlab pages thing
<Justin2025> I guess I could snag a tagged tarball off of gitlab.freedesktop.org/poppler/poppler-data/-/tags
<f_> so it has a corresponding git repo
<Justin2025> Ah it must be on GitLab pages.
<f_> it definitely is yeah
<Justin2025> That would make sense.
<f_> So far I've seen this issue affect only gitlab pages
<Justin2025> So adding a standard fileserver with a CDN in front would fix this as the CDN would cache the files.
<Justin2025> And well a standard Apache/NGINX server is much less likely to have issues than GitLab which is a beast.
* Justin2025 works around the down GitLab server
<Justin2025> Even if Freedesktop had a simple fileserver and asked others to mirror it, that would be fine.
<Justin2025> 11 hours of outage is a bit rough.
<f_> well it seems some things are slowly coming back
<f_> like, yesterday the wayback.freedesktop.org website also returned that error
<f_> but now it doesn't anymore
<Justin2025> Ah
<f_> and the Networkmanager docs also don't return that error anymore
<Justin2025> Would still be good to get some redundancy around download availability so this isn't an issue in the future.
* Justin2025 can imagine all the builds failing because poppler is inaccessible
<Justin2025> I guess you could call this a supply chain issue :)
<f_> haha
<f_> 🤣
<Justin2025> For example KDE's cdn.kde.org that hosts a load of content is backed by cdn77.org which I think they get for free. They also have download.kde.org and that is mirrorred by 50+ content sites: https://download.kde.org/stable/release-service/25.08.0/src/konsole-25.08.0.tar.xz.mirrorlist
<f_> I think fdo uses fastly though
<f_> but I don't have much details on how fdo infra works :)
<Justin2025> Then they need a files.freedesktop.org and put that behind it :D
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<daniels> it should be fixed now
<Justin2025> Indeed it is thanks daniels
<f_> cool!
<Justin2025> Do you manage the infrastructure daniels?
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<Justin2025> If so I'd love to help set up some resilience against future issues like this. f_ knows how to reach me.
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<Ermine> f_: how do you navigate those buffers?
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<f_> Ermine: ido_switcher + uberprompt in irssi
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