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<gfxstrand> tjaalton: Could you do a quick check of the Ubuntu and debian libx11 packages for --disable-thread-safety-constructor? It should NOT be set. If it is, Mesa 25.2 wil break.
<gfxstrand> We've already had issues on Arch where they had it set on the 32-bit package but not the 64-bit one so check both if there's a difference.
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<tjaalton> gfxstrand: it's not set, so assuming it's not the default we should be fine
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<tjaalton> got dropped ~2y ago (again)
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<karolherbst> tnt: you might be interest in this MR: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/36249 at least the st_interop.c change
<karolherbst> *interested
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<tnt> karolherbst: yes, I saw you posted about that some time ago. Thanks for the heads up. Although I can't say I really saw any ill-effects without it. But then again it might be hard to catch ...
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<karolherbst> tnt: for current code this shouldn't cause any changes in behavior
<karolherbst> it's more to address a corner case in the spec
<karolherbst> in the cl spec for "clEnqueueAcquireGLObjects"
<karolherbst> "If an OpenGL context is bound to the current thread, then any OpenGL commands which" and the following
<karolherbst> to fix sync issues, I need to flush again on clEnqueueAcquireGLObjects calls, but it's not guaranteed that a gl context is bound to the current thread, at least in davinci
<karolherbst> tnt: I have the CL CTS tests be flaky in radeonsi and zink without it btw
<karolherbst> never seen any issues on iris
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<mareko> the vdpau frontend is probably on the chopping block
<zmike> at last
<mareko> there is also some vl stuff that will be unused after vdpau is gone
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<karolherbst> for vdpau we'd then rely on this vdpau on top of vaapi layer?
<karolherbst> (or on top of vulkan video I guess)
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<mareko> I've been told that vdpau isn't needed by anything
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<karolherbst> that sounds optimistic, though we can layer vdpau on top of vaapi, but I think we should be fine either way
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<mareko> having just VAAPI in Mesa sounds appealing, though having drivers other than radeonsi using vaapi wouldn't be bad either
<karolherbst> intel has their external impl, and I think for zink there are probably plans to support it on top of vulkan video if it doesn't exist already
<mareko> are radeonsi+radv the strongest drivers in terms of VAAPI and Vulkan Video support; sharing the same driver code between VAAPI and Vulkan seems beneficial, an external vaapi implementation wouldn't have that
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<jenatali> mareko: d3d12 supports vaapi
<jenatali> There's also the MF video frontend which uses some vl stuff now too
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<zmike> mareko: not sure if you care but the tc commit in https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/36576 actually ended up being a harder bug to fix and I had to redo it
<zmike> still no changes outside of my little sandbox
<zmike> also I figured out a solution for multi-context buffer release
<zmike> though images will be harder
<daniels> mareko: I don't know of any substantial users of VDPAU who would be disadvantaged by having to drop back to VA-API. I'm not sure I can see too many more new VA-API drivers though; on Arm, all the codecs are provided by external (non-GPU) IP blocks which have their own V4L2 drivers and don't map well to the Mesa/VA world. Intel have their own external VA-API implementation and I'm not aware of any plans to change that.
<K900> It is very unfortunate how V4L2 is just its own entirely separate abstraction that doesn't work with anything else
<K900> Just when we got Vulkan Video which had decent chances of being The One Thing
<emersion> intel dropped support for their old vaapi driver, we discussed integrating it in mesa, but that would be a whole bunch of work
<K900> I wonder if it makes sense to specify video-only Vulkan devices and then have something bridge that to V4L2
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<daniels> that's one possible option for one class of V4L2 devices, yeah
<daniels> but not for stateful codecs
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<K900> Is there literally any relevant hardware with stateful V4L2 codecs though
<daniels> loads of Qualcomm
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<mareko> zmike: Ab
<zmike> thx
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