<javamartini>
I've been looking into trying Haiku for daily-driver desktop usage. The desktop world on BSD and Linux is unfortunately really fragmented. :( How is support for somewhat modern hardware? Say.. 2020?
<nilFinx>
It depends. My modern-ish 8th gen hardware works completely fine.
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<coolcoder613>
javamartini: i'd say desktop hardware not working with haiku would be the exception rather than the rule
<coolcoder613>
what's your hardware like?
<javamartini>
Pretty cool. Can't wait to give it a shot. Seems like I will have a pretty cool and consistent actual desktop experience. Might even try to learn how to make GUIs
<coolcoder613>
I'm currently running Haiku on my PC
<javamartini>
coolcoder613: I used somewhat modern hardware for my question because I possibly will test this on other computers but I was first going to try this on a really old Inspiron 15 a friend was about to throw away
<javamartini>
I do not know much about the Inspiron he has though, I imagine its age may actually be a strength here, similar to how my experience on BSD has been
<javamartini>
This is my first time using IRC lol, so cool to actually get replies. love old protocols like this
<javamartini>
I think he mentioned the Inspiron having an 7th gen?? Maybe?? Won't know until I pick it up but its age will likely be a feature in this situation lol
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<coolcoder613>
javamartini: 7th gen isn't that old...
<javamartini>
Perhaps not, but tech moves so fast! XD
<javamartini>
I have an 8th gen i5 from 2018 in an old gaming laptop I received when I was like.. 15-16? was a handy CPU lol
<coolcoder613>
My current gaming rig has an i5-8600k...
<coolcoder613>
but then it is the weakest part of the system
<javamartini>
To be fair, modern games do not heavily rely on CPUs as much as they rely on dGPUs so thats pretty fair. it is still a great CPU and I would use it today for most workloads if i was building something :D
<javamartini>
I barely game though, I mostly just program lol
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<coolcoder613>
Right now I don't game at all, but sometimes I can get into a gaming phase where I play video games all day for weeks
<coolcoder613>
I have a 3060 12gb so I'm pretty good for GPU stuff
<coolcoder613>
can run most of the games I've tried in Ultra
<coolcoder613>
What GPU do you have?
<coolcoder613>
javamartini
<javamartini>
haha so I managed to run No Mans Sky on a 13th gen i7 with an Intel Iris Xe, which was insane. I do not have the capability to my my intel Arc A380 to any PC at the moment, but I have a plan for that
<javamartini>
It ran at about 45 FPS on average. It is absolutely insane how far iGPUs have come. To be fair, it used so much RAM I am pretty sure the iGPU was offloading litteraly as much as it could into memory because I iGPUs use the system-wide RAM (im pretty sure). It was a crazy experiment lol
<coolcoder613>
that is pretty crazy
<coolcoder613>
I think the youtuber action retro once built an i9 PC just to run minecraft on Haiku. Nowadays there's an nvidia driver, so he'd just have to use a new enough nividia card
<coolcoder613>
*nvidia
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<javamartini>
Can't imagine even gaming on Haiku, wow, thats amazing. Tbf, minecraft is java and that means thatll run anywhere but wow. im gonna have to watch that!
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<coolcoder613>
javamartini: last week I ported Vintage Story and Stardew Valley to Haiku, as well as a minecraft modpack. The first two are both .net
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<javamartini>
Fell asleep for a moment, but thats genuinely incredible! I actually may have a pretty good time trying out this OS. Going to burn to a disc tomorrow
<coolcoder613>
javamartini: burn to a disc? do you mean a cd/dvd disc or a usb disk?
<javamartini>
Oh, an actual DVD. I intend to archive the installation anyways. i like to keep physical media lol. ik its weird
<Begasus[m]>
g'morning peeps
<javamartini>
g'morning, but now its time for me to get some sleep. so g'night XD
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<Begasus[m]>
hmm java ... we still need someone to bring over javaFX* :)
<Begasus[m]>
for midi playback there are other soundfonts with better quality then this one though, keeping it for now (historical) :)
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<Digi-SpaceProductions[m]>
okay so, im a bit confused, i had haiku x64 working a bit ago on my machine, but now it refuses to boot, only booting via QEMU, how do you think i'd go about fixing it? (It never colorizes any icons, always grayscale)
<augiedoggie>
you can boot to an older state in the bootloader menu
<Digi-SpaceProductions[m]>
when i hold shift/space to enter the menu, i just get a black screen, it's weird.
<smrobtzz>
waddlesplash: On RPi5 using EDK2, we crash in the bootloader, IIRC due to the readBuffer in EfiDevice::ReadAt overflowing the stack
<smrobtzz>
UTM fix was not included
<waddlesplash>
ok good to know
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<waddlesplash>
smrobtzz: re your last Gerrit reply, yes it'd be nice if VMTranslationMap had this info, but for now can the bootloader set it at least so we don't need your patch for checking gKernelStartup but only get the faults after VM init?
<waddlesplash>
and also add a TODO in VMSAv8TranslationMap I suppose
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<smrobtzz>
waddlesplash: I was crashing during interrupt controller setup, so the memory was not mapped in the bootloader. Anyway, "two CPUs faulting at exactly the same time, before VM init" is supremely unlikely to happen so I'll just adjust the offending code so that doesn't happen
<waddlesplash>
smrobtzz: map_early should proceed with same assumption as bootloader
<smrobtzz>
eh, wait, no, this *was* post VM init, I shouldn't have needed that patch
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<smrobtzz>
oh right, page faults aren't allowed since the idle thread isn't initialized
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